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"Found these in the Zaporizhzhya direction. The enemy is throwing chocolates with an explosive mechanism. Do not open them under any circumstances. Our guy was lucky that it did not detonate, otherwise he could have ended up crippled. I know guys whose fingers were torn off like that."

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[–] HakFoo@lemmy.sdf.org 43 points 2 years ago (5 children)

That does seem like something that would violate some rules-of-war convention.

Booby-trapping something that might be mistaken by civilians as a legitimate humanitarian aid drop risks non-combatant casualties and makes it harder for actual aid operations to operate.

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 39 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Ah, this reminds the time when cluster munitions were bright yellow, so you could spot them and stay away.

And food aid packages were bright yellow, so you could spot them and easily collect them.

Yeah...

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 11 points 2 years ago (1 children)

During the early occupation of Afghanistan after 2001. Here's a news article from 2003 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/2912617.stm

Note that that wasn't on purpose.

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 2 years ago

Wow. I guess those two teams didn't talk often, which tracks.

Happy cake day!

[–] apotheotic@beehaw.org 16 points 2 years ago

If it is something they're actually doing, I agree. But this image looks like a crafts project gone wrong. Are we supposed to believe that the bit a the bottom is like, high explosive or something and that tiny wire is the primer?

[–] CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Yup. I read the convention on mines recently in the wake of the pagers thing. Even if chocolate isn't humanitarian aid, portable booby trapped non-military items are forbidden if they self-trigger. (The pagers actually seem fine by the copy I read, because being remote-controlled makes them "other devices")

Edit: And also specifically food or drink.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

SOURCES?

I've asked about 10 times, but no one can seem to provide a single reputable journalistic source. Is that really such a tall order? Follow facts, not feelings...

That's true! If it happened. Does anyone have any source at all for this from any reputable news organization?

[–] ghen@sh.itjust.works 42 points 2 years ago

Far more likely this is being prepared by Russians as they retreat in Kursk and blamed on Ukraine just in case any Russian civilians get hit. We know for a fact that Russia booby traps civilian areas which is a war crime. There have been zero cases of Ukraine doing this. So if a booby trap exists it should be assumed Russian.

[–] nuke@sh.itjust.works 38 points 2 years ago

Willy Wonka sends his regards

[–] NateNate60@lemmy.world 29 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Explosives don't seem smart. Why didn't they poison the chocolate instead? The enemy opens the chocolate, sees nothing wrong with it, shares it with their mates, and then now you've got five casualties who are none the wiser. Is that against the rules of war or something?

[–] Dasus@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

Is that against the rules of war or something?

Yes. Very much so. Just poison in general is a war crime, let alone hiding it in chocolate.

https://ihl-databases.icrc.org/fr/customary-ihl/v2/rule72

Article 23(a) of the 1899 Hague Regulations provides: β€œIt is especially prohibited … to employ poison or poisoned arms.”

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl 23 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

SOURCES?

I've asked about 10 times, but no one can seem to provide a single reputable journalistic source. Is that really such a tall order? Follow facts, not feelings...

We're... supposed to believe Russia!? According to them, they still haven't violently invaded Ukraine, kidnapped children, or committed war crimes!

(To be clear, any war crimes need to be stopped, investigated, and prosecuted.)

EDIT: Wait, there's not even an article to look into sources? Just text and an image!? If this isn't my specific app not cross-linking properly, this post has to violate community rules, right? Or at least it should...

[–] LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz -3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

We're... supposed to believe Russia

No.

Wait, there’s not even an article to look into sources

I do not post link to pro-Russian sources. You can do a reverse image search, if you so wish.

[–] Empricorn@feddit.nl -3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

SOURCES?

I've asked about 10 times, but no one can seem to provide a single reputable journalistic source. Is that really such a tall order? Follow facts, not feelings...

"Pro-Russian" sources? I think you misunderstand. I'm curious why there are no sources. Like, at all. Not just from you, but any that actually exist! I can't find anything. Here's a search that should be broad enough:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Russia%20claim%20ukraine%20chocolate&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-b-1-m#sbfbu=1&pi=Russia%20claim%20ukraine%20chocolate

Adding "explosive" to the query doesn't yield any better results. We don't have to link propaganda, but if Russia is claiming this, there would be English-language articles about the claim, yes? Again, if anyone has any source, please post it... But no, "do your own research" isn't sufficient for a claim with literally nothing to back it up.

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 7 points 2 years ago

You can start to track this down by reverse image searches if you are that curious. It's a crap story, so the actual source is going to be ambiguous.

This was the first I found, posted on the 4th, and I am not linking to it directly.

[–] tpihkal@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're not going to find anything if you're using Google for your searches.

Try changing your location with a VPN. Search using Yandex. Translate your search to Russian first. Etc.

[–] LaFinlandia@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The sources are all Russian.

[–] MercuryGenisus@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Mirror + bandaid + paperclip + packing tape = boom? It's like a bad 80s tv show.

[–] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

TIL Macguyver is a Ukrainian asset.

[–] DScratch@sh.itjust.works 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Why bother with chocolate at all? Just wrap c4 in a Freddo wrapper.

[–] PanoptiDon@lemmy.world 17 points 2 years ago

Come into my country, you get what you get.

[–] SplashJackson@lemmy.ca 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

They only just discovered the chocolates yet somehow they know people who had their fingers blown off from them?

Sounds a bit suspect, Ivan

[–] 314@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Nice Halloween touch...victory to Ukraine. LOL, if vodka bottles were used...

Send more weapons! Allow use on military targets in russia!

[–] Tar_alcaran@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah, this definitely looks like airdropped chocolate to me bro.

[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 3 points 2 years ago

Wouldn't catch me dead with dark chocolate in my hand, or exploded all over me