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Dems keep working with trump to approve his picks, but what they won't accept is that if you sit down at a table with nazis, the only thing that's changed is the number of nazis at the table. @_cryptagion@lemmy.dbzer0.com

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[–] y0kai@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is this eugenics or Darwinism? If they bring it on themselves and die of their own stupidity, I think that's a lot closer to natural selection than intentional editing of the gene pool.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 6 points 10 months ago

Social Darwinism, you might say, if you were a snarky bitch who knows what either term means and is so fucking tired of not being able to tell the purely ignorant from the hypocrites.

[–] Dadifer@lemmy.world 21 points 10 months ago

Is it eugenics when they kill themselves?

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 15 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It only counts as "eugenics" when it is forced onto you, by others. If all you're doing is selecting your own breeding partner based on your own personal preferences...it doesn't count as eugenics.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -5 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It does, actually. The term for it, shockingly enough, is personal eugenics.

[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 10 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So, you are engaging in eugenics, for choosing whether or not to have children with someone?

In that case, who does get to decide who you have kids with, then...if not you? Or is it all just eugenics, at that point?

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So, the right is committing eugenics against itself, but the left is being accused of eugenics simply for observing it?

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

No.

It isn't eugenics to select your line out of gene pool by mistake and not intent.

It is also isn't the act of eugenics to wish for or mock these results, but it is a form of Social Darwinist thought, which is a eugenicist belief. So a noun vs verb situation, eugenicist beliefs vs genocidal acts.

Personally I welcome all Republicans directly removing themselves from contributing to the gene pool, but it's still pretty disgraceful to cheer them when they're taking everyone around them down with them.

There are no red or blue states after all, just shades of purple. These institutions aren't just designed to protect Republicans from themselves, not to mention we aren't in a situation yet where we have to accept that when Daddy starts goose-stepping Junior's going to have to roll through dice in the bombing campaigns. These are still preventable tragedies and ones that certainly have much more to do with socioeconomic results than genetic "flaws"

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Reminds me of when the train derailment in East Palestine, Ohio happened. People said the people of the city deserved it because they voted Republican last election.

It wasn't even a big majority, it was a slim margin. It doesn't even count the people arrested who are unable to vote. It doesn't count the children who can't vote because they aren't 18. It doesn't count the people who aren't Republican and are good people.

And I said "Condemning everyone in one city to be infected with toxic chemicals because a slim margin voted for a party doesn't make you the good guys."

And I got flamed for wanting to not poison people. Doesn't help I have a friend who's one of the best people I know who lives in Ohio. They want that lovable person just gone because the state votes weird, when they don't.

[–] jaggedrobotpubes@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

Overgeneralizing is a bitch.

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Eugenics is when I'm tricked into voting against my own self interests out of spite.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, this is why I think Idiocracy isn't that great. So many people look at it and think it represents where we're heading, but the whole premise is euginics. It also doesn't provide any solutions. It's just a comedy to laugh at people you don't like, where it should be critiquing capitalism and providing an alternative. It sortof is a criticism of capitalism, but more in the neo-liberal sense of "this is the way things are, so just laugh and be upset" instead of saying it's bad and there's a way to fix it.

[–] outhouseperilous@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

It is a well made film and a lot of the humor is on point.

But the eugenics thing is very gross. I wouldn't necessarily recommend it because of that.