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[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

"Redneck" was literally a labor movement term before it became a insult for poor rural people. During the Coalfield Wars (1910s-20s), Appalachian miners—many wearing red bandanas as a union symbol ("red necks")—waged open war against corporately bought private armies and the US military. The Battle of Blair Mountain (1921) saw 10,000+ armed miners (called rednecks by both sides) fighting cops and strikebreakers in the largest labor uprising in U.S. history. Socialists like Eugene Debs even rallied these "rednecks" as class warriors. The term got whitewashed later, but it started as a badge of honor for strikers.

Blair Mountain

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 year ago (3 children)

I wouldn't go down this route, painting all rednecks as Maga supporters is not fair to them or conducive to a good outcome.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago (3 children)

And there are plenty of MAGA dipshits who aren't rednecks. If you watched the Mummers parade today, you saw a bunch of Delco bigots who wouldn't know a tractor from a turnip truck. But those guys sure looked pretty in their dresses.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Exactly, and a lot of the people who were at Jan 6 were from upper middle class suburban white america who flew in to DC taking time off from their cushy jobs to larp as revolutionaries.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I had no idea what you were talking about but JFC what a cringy bunch of freaks. The Wikipedia article had photos that turned my stomach.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It's a longstanding Philadelphia tradition with a problematic history of casual and overt racism.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

It’s problematic just because of the stupid shit they’re wearing. WTF?!?!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Some of the costumes are rather intricate and impressive. And then sometimes they're racist. People who defend the Mummers try to pretend the bigots have been removed and prohibited frim returning, but this year some bigots attacked the crowd while waving MAGA flag.

The musical acts are good, though. Lotta fun for the kids.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

This is a big point. I briefly took a job in Northern California two years ago and met more openly-racist bigots and transphobes than I ever met in my Appalachian hometown

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's an important distinction to be made between rednecks and hillbillies. The south would like you toe believe that anything non-urban is redneck, this is not so.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Hillbillies are generally a specific type of non urban. Here in Appalachia we refer to them as off the mountain. You don't just run into hillbillies. You have to go where they go.

The rest of us are rednecks. I don't think redneck is "everyone south and rural" but it's pretty close.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I've made comments about how Mississippians are not what they're made out to be. Not a welcome comment around here.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 5 months ago

Just carrying on the long long history of punishing the workers who dared take up arms to defend themselves a century ago.

Unlikely to change any time soon. That punishment has included the above derision, plastered all over all forms of media for decades. As well as generational economic punishment. GovCo shat on Appalachia from such a height they've never yet recovered and likely never will. Look at the response to the devastation from that hurricane.

Only people on this continent that got a worse hand are the indigenous and black folks in southern states.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

So redneck agenda is different from MAGA agenda? Do tell.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Redneck here. Fuck Trump and fuck you for thinking I support him.

Hope this helps.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Nice PP son, I'm proud of you. ❤️🫡

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Cody Barlow ain't no bigot

[–] [email protected] 2 points 7 months ago

I’m a lefty to the bone and have been since I was a kid. I’ve spent most of my life in the south and have met some amazing redneck folks that don’t fit into this mold.

Basically, don’t put your potential working class allies into a box.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Bullshit

I'm born and raised in Appalachia, my daddy worked in the coal mines and drove an 18 wheeler. Certified redneck enough that I confuse the shit out of my New England neighbors.

I went out and marched with striking nurses when Bernie put out the call, and I've never voted Republican in my entire fucking life.

OP, you need to learn what a redneck is.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

This isn't helping, and it isn't true.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Fuck off no they ain't.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Rednecks are historically left. Big on unions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Historically Republicans were instrumental in abolishing slavery. Today's version wants it back.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Mmmm political left and right don't align strictly on a union-supporting axis. Even left and right don't really mean much anymore, because the Conservative party isn't anchored to a specific set of ideologies the was Progressives are. A conservative will support a union when the union helps rhe conservative, will oppose the union when the union hurts the conservative, and will demonize the union when it helps them get elected by lathering up their base of voters.

Progressives support labor rights, equitable pay, and regulations that protect the safety and liberty of the worker. Progressives will support those ideals even when it does not help them directly.

Many people associate Communists and Socialists with the "left" and Libertarians and Free Market Capitalists with the "right". But there are conservative communists and progressive capitalists.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Whaa? "Many people associate Communists and Socialists with the “left” and Libertarians and Free Market Capitalists with the “right”. But there are conservative communists and progressive capitalists." You can't be a conservative Communist, its oxymoronic, dito for the other one too. If you call yourself a communist and have conservative ideals u are not a communist and should change your believes or be removed for communist spaces. On the other hand if you call yourself progressive and support capitalism you aren't progressive as capitalism is inherently oppressive. You can call yourself whatever you'd like but you have to walk the walk too, to be it.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Of course you can be a conservative Communist. Most of China is both communist and conservative.

Ultimately, you can call yourself whatever you want.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

China is socially conservative--and deeply authoritarian--but economically is officially communist (although not so much in practice, given that they have billionaires).

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

China is not communist, just like the Nazi party was not socialist. And yeah you can yourself whatever you'd like but that doesn't make it true. I can call myself a invertebrate but my bones are still on the inside

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

Eat shit OP. You don't know what the fuck you're talking about.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

When I was dating, I laughingly told a girl I was "kinda redneck".

"Uh, exactly how redneck?"

"I loathe Trump and don't start me on January 6th. If that's what you're asking."

"Whew. Just checking."