Not a tankie, but the USSR had mostly solved this problem, despite all its other issues. There did exist some homelessness, but nowhere near the extent of current USA.

[–] Mercival@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Well, I'm from a post-USSR country and a substantial part of this was the criminalization of homelessness. Can't have homeless people, if you lock them up (be it in a prison or asylum).

Then again, just about anyone, who did not conform to the party's message got locked up. Getting your place bugged at the slightest hint you might be up to something disagreeable and all that good stuff. The secret police could disappear and or beat you up without any real justification.

I hate late-stage capitalism as much as you, but coming from a country that's been through this, I am extremely reluctant to give the rotten and frankly repugnant USSR regime any credit.

[–] escapesamsara@lemmings.world -2 points 1 year ago

Your grandma that "fled communism" lied to you. Eventually you'll understand that and stop repeating their nonsense.

[–] RangerJosie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

At least they tried. Our homelessness is an intentional feature of our capitalist system. A constant threat and extant punishment for those among us who aren't fortunate enough to be born with a silver stick up our ass.

[–] pelya@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sure, you could get a piece of land in Siberian tundra at any time, I would not call that housing.

Moving to a city was way more complicated than in capitalist US. You could not simply buy an apartment. You had to be allocated an apartment by the government. And you needed connections for that. Or bribes. Ideally both. If you think your local rabid Republicans do not care for little wage slave men, you never experienced USSR, it was like that but 100x worse.

[–] Stalins_Spoon@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 2 years ago

If you got a new job in a different city, they gave you a new flat, at least in Romania

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah that's called late stage Communism, which we have never achieved as humanity. Late stage Capitalism is currently pushing more and more folks into dangerous housing situations like the bottom right quadrant of this meme. Capitalism and Utopia are oxymorons while Communism and Utopia are synonymous.

[–] Klear@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The real communist solution to homelessness was to put them in jails. True story.

[–] Grayox@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

From a Legislative Perspective, it is Illegal to be Homeless in Virtually Every State in the USA, Except for Two – Oregon and Wyoming I think you are confusing Communist countries with Capitalist ones. Lol, lmao even.

[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

As someone who has been homeless before, I've never been arrested for it.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

That's what a lot of red states are doing now. Make homelessness illegal. Arrest the homeless. Make them do slave labor in jail. Profit.

[–] Waluigis_Talking_Buttplug@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Why is this shit always communist vs capitalist, like we've only got 2 answers avaliable. You fuckers never set foot in a communist country and worship this shit

Fucking communist countries have killed how many millions of their own citizens? Don't really think showing a picture of some buildings is enough to prove that they actually solved any issues. They may have solved those issues for some who were lucky enough to get an apartment, but don't be a hexbear and pretend they housed everyone.

And no, I don't want a response with a link about hurr duer capitalism bad, yeah I know, but I live in capitalism so I already know that.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

This is fundamentally false.

While it is true that there was inexpensive housing available in the USSR, and that rents were quite reasonable compared to anything that currently exists in the US, and people couldn't readily be evicted if they lacked the ability to pay, it's a flat-out lie to say that that was the "solution" to homelessness, or that it eliminated the problem. Rather, the USSR criminalized being homeless and not being engaged in socially-productive labor; people that were homeless ended up in prisons and were labelled as parasites. The problem that we have now is that the official records simply didn't record the problem, in much the same way that Stalin had histories and photos revised to eliminate people that had become enemies of the state.

[–] TheScaryDoor@startrek.website 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Rather, the USSR criminalized being homeless and not being engaged in socially-productive labor; people that were homeless ended up in prisons and were labelled as parasites.

Swap USSR with USA and the statement remains true. Though Im sure the degree of severity was much greater in the USSR.

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

If homeless people go to prison in this country, why have I never seen one arrested? Why are they … not in prison but rather sleeping on the street?

I’m not sure what you’re trying to claim here, as what you’re claiming is obviously false based on my day to day experience in the US