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I feel like we need to talk about Lemmy's massive tankie censorship problem. A lot of popular lemmy communities are hosted on lemmy.ml. It's been well known for a while that the admins/mods of that instance have, let's say, rather extremist and onesided political views. In short, they're what's colloquially referred to as tankies. This wouldn't be much of an issue if they didn't regularly abuse their admin/mod status to censor and silence people who dissent with their political beliefs and for example, post things critical of China, Russia, the USSR, socialism, ...

As an example, there was a thread today about the anniversary of the Tiananmen Massacre. When I was reading it, there were mostly posts critical of China in the thread and some whataboutist/denialist replies critical of the USA and the west. In terms of votes, the posts critical of China were definitely getting the most support.

I posted a comment in this thread linking to "https://archive.ph/2020.07.12-074312/https://imgur.com/a/AIIbbPs" (WARNING: graphical content), which describes aspects of the atrocities that aren't widely known even in the West, and supporting evidence. My comment was promptly removed for violating the "Be nice and civil" rule. When I looked back at the thread, I noticed that all posts critical of China had been removed while the whataboutist and denialist comments were left in place.

This is what the modlog of the instance looks like:

Definitely a trend there wouldn't you say?

When I called them out on their one sided censorship, with a screenshot of the modlog above, I promptly received a community ban on all communities on lemmy.ml that I had ever participated in.

Proof:

So many of you will now probably think something like: "So what, it's the fediverse, you can use another instance."

The problem with this reasoning is that many of the popular communities are actually on lemmy.ml, and they're not so easy to replace. I mean, in terms of content and engagement lemmy is already a pretty small place as it is. So it's rather pointless sitting for example in /c/linux@some.random.other.instance.world where there's nobody to discuss anything with.

I'm not sure if there's a solution here, but I'd like to urge people to avoid lemmy.ml hosted communities in favor of communities on more reasonable instances.

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[–] Anticorp@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (15 children)

Not only do they delete truthful responses that contradict their ideology, they often do it in such a way that it is untraceable by other mods. I'm not sure how they accomplish that, nor is the admin who messaged me letting me know that it was happening and he couldn't figure out how. Anyways, my solution has been to completely block that instance, and delete my account there. If they want to exist in a little untruthful echo chamber, then so be it, but I don't need to be a part of it. I recommend you do the same thing.

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[–] pukeko@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Whenever this topic comes up, I find myself wondering what these folks do all day. Not in a Boomer "don't these people have jobs?!?" way, but more ... what is it like to be them? Do they just sit in front of the computer looking for conversations to disrupt? What is their daily existence? Because I find their volume and dedication to what they do fascinating. Cancerous and absurd, but also fascinating.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

This was my experience. My first interaction was me asking a question in good faith. I was then attacked en masse and banned. When I asked about it, I was told how I was a terrible person for not already knowing and believing what they do.

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[–] fine_sandy_bottom@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I really want to understand their relationship with the CCP.

Do they genuinely believe the shit they're peddling or are they paid propagandists or is their something more nefarious afoot.

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[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I’ve been making fun of Lemmy.Ml for months, I’m glad to see I’m not the only one

[–] viking@infosec.pub 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Tankies gonna tank. Just block their shit instance and move on with your life.

[–] wahming@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The issue at hand is there are way too many neutral / unrelated communities which are resident on .ml, and it'd be nice if we could manage to move some of them off.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

You can. Create a new community and tell the most active people in the original about it. Once everyone posts in the new comm you're done.

It's not like it hasn't been done before.

[–] therealjcdenton@lemmy.zip 1 points 2 years ago

Chinese honey pot

[–] WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today 1 points 1 year ago

They didn't let me join in the first place lol. They are so weird.

[–] sabreW4K3@lazysoci.al 1 points 2 years ago

Decentralization is good for everyone.

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