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[–] otacon239@lemmy.world 150 points 10 months ago (9 children)

I don’t understand how it’s not a requirement to pass these safety regulations before manufacture. How can a company fully produce and sell a dangerous product as big and complicated as a car before someone regulatory sees it and cuts it off at the head?

This alone has left me with zero faith in pretty much anything I buy anymore. It’s like it’s a surprise when something works as advertised anymore.

[–] justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io 82 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I cannot speak for EU regulatory bodies. But Canada gave it a provisional pass pending testing because the US gave it a full pass

[–] mrgoosmoos@lemmy.ca 20 points 10 months ago

and I am very disappointed in my country for it

of course, they also allow unlimited brightness headlights (or at least near enough), so it shouldn't be a surprise that they don't give a fuck about people outside of the vehicle

[–] Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 56 points 10 months ago (4 children)

The more you learn about America, the more you understand they give 0 fucks about the people. It’s a capitalistic nightmare where corporations have no accountability.

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[–] Grimtuck@lemmy.world 30 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm not in the industry and I'm not in the EU, but it was obvious that this ridiculous monstrosity wouldn't pass the most basic safety regulations in the UK and EU. There are rules about having soft edges for collisions with pedestrians. Tesla completely ignored these despite begging aware of the regulations for the multiple other cars they sell here successfully.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 12 points 10 months ago

You're also not allowed to just make cars out of whatever random material you desire. It has to be automotive steel, and plastic for body work. Not inch thick stock metal that you would normally use to beat an elephant to death

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They likely knew it would only be sold in North America only.

[–] arc99@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

I have a feeling that the engineers knew but Elon didn't, or thought he could do his usual and force it through.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 8 points 10 months ago

Because any serious company would make sure they can actually sell their product before they go to manufacturing.

Tesla likely knew the Cybertruck wouldn't leave North America in serious numbers.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Well i guess the EU can't stop something being manufactured in the US.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago (3 children)

No, but it should have required a passing test before going on sale in the EU

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 25 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It never was for sale in the EU, it was always imported via loopholes where the EU assumed that the US would put roadworthy stuff on its roads.

[–] arc99@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Not so much loopholes as existing mechanisms. There are ways to import vehicles and modify them to be road safe / legal, called homologation which involves submitting a lot of paperwork, taxes, inspections and certifications to an EU government and having a car be certified. And also more restrictive special permits so a vehicle can be shown at events or whatever. The cybertruck however is simply too far over the line that no amount of modification would make it road legal.

[–] HK65@sopuli.xyz 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I heard stories about people not even doing that, only abusing grace periods where you can drive a vehicle from abroad on our roads while you do the paperwork.

[–] arc99@lemmy.world 2 points 10 months ago

I've heard of people trying to get Cybertrucks road legal. Some guy in Czech republic almost managed it until a public outcry had his certification revoked. Another guy in UK had his car impounded. So if people are stupid enough to try driving their extremely recognizable illegal vehicle then they risk losing their it entirely.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 14 points 10 months ago

It has never been on sale in the EU, there are a few that was given special permission to drive in limited areas for marketing and testing, but nothing more than that.

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 10 months ago

did it not ?

[–] diptchip@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago
[–] Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Regulations in Europe are stricter than in the US. It's legal in the US but won't be here without substantial changes.

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[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 67 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It was not banned. It just never got a permission in the first place because it does not comply to rules and regulations.

[–] cogman@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Move fast and break the law.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 7 points 10 months ago

It's not really breaking the law though is it. It would only be breaking the law if they tried to sell it in Europe anyway and since they never did no laws have been broken.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 67 points 10 months ago (1 children)

“failing to comply” makes it sound like they ever had any intention to do so.

Reader, they did not.

[–] CouldntCareBear@sh.itjust.works 36 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And 'banned' makes it sound like it was at some point allowed here.

It just never passed regulations. Not a shock.

[–] bstix@feddit.dk 2 points 10 months ago

I wonder if they even bothered attempting the test it in the first place.

[–] echodot@feddit.uk 66 points 10 months ago (1 children)

It's not actually banned it's just it doesn't meet the safety requirements so it's not allowed.

It's like saying you're banned from bars when you're 12, you're not really banned you're just not allowed in, it's not really the same thing.

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[–] shutz@lemmy.ca 27 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Canada here. Please, Europe, make it a condition for any future trade deals between us that we have to ban the Cybertruck here as well. I've already seen too many of them on the roads here for comfort...

[–] Nomecks@lemmy.ca 17 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I can't believe it was able to pass Canadian safety regulations

[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago

I'm not even Canadian and I know it's a rolling fire hazard.

[–] arc99@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Cybertrucks were never "banned" per se, just defacto illegal to drive on the road because they do not comply with vehicle safety standards. People have tried to import them, making token efforts to make them road legal based on requirements for one-off importations but they haven't succeeded.

There are videos that explain what they would need to be legal and basically it amounts to being completely redesigned. They don't have the correct light clusters front or back, they're too heavy to be privately driven and they are so unsafe for pedestrians that the entire outward appearance / frame would have to be changed.

[–] Allemaniac@lemmy.world 15 points 10 months ago

common EU win

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I don't understand these articles? Was there ever any chance the Cybertruck could be street legal in Europe?
It obviously doesn't meet current standards, and I don't see why standards should be changed to allow this monstrosity to drive on the roads of Europe.
IDK if regulation is exactly the same in all EU countries, but here (Denmark) you can only drive max 3500 kg total weight with a normal drivers license. The Cybertruck can easily get above that, and you wouldn't be able to use a trailer with with it.

[–] shalafi@lemmy.world 12 points 10 months ago (3 children)

So is this going to tank TSLA stock? Or were they already banned so no big deal?

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

They never got approval

[–] BigDanishGuy@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

Sales of new teslas in the EU aren't great ro begin with, and the truck market is strictly professionals. I don' think that it's going to affect the stock price.

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[–] Psythik@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Those are the strangest bullet points I've ever seen in an article. What do Mosquitos have to do with the Cybertruck? Almost makes me want to actually read the thing.

[–] forrgott@lemmy.sdf.org 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

It's becoming a common tactic, actually - the bullet points do not relate to the article (at least not when I loaded the page). It's just links to random crap to try to keep you in their site and viewing more ads. Jokes on them, I only surf with UBlock active.

And I'm not even sure this qualifies as an article - more like a low effort blog, once again just to farm ad views.

[–] Grizzlyboy@lemmy.zip 8 points 10 months ago (3 children)

I wonder what this means for us up in Norway. You can import a CT if it’s been owned for a given amount of time, by someone in America. After that you import it and it’s fully legal in Norway.. it’s pretty stupid, and I’m not sure if these laws will affect us the same way as EU countries.

[–] ChaoticNeutralCzech@feddit.org 3 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There are several in the Czech Republic too, and there is a guy willing to import it and add EU lights for $200 000

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[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I'm pretty sure that you can import it whereever you want, but you will probably not be able to get licence plates for it to use it on the road?

In austria there is a process of getting a car "typisiert" ("categorized by type"?), where a car is checked for any violation of road regulations -- normally this process is used when you build a car from scratch, or modify it so heavily that it has to be rechecked. No "Typisierung", no licence plates, which means the vehicle can only be used on private roads.

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[–] Harvey656@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Bahahahahahahahahaha. Now do the US next please.

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