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People that use Neovim really like Neovim | More than any other code editor, people using it want to keep using it | 2024 Stacked Overflow Developer Survey (programming.dev)
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Based on answers to the following question:

Which development environments did you use regularly over the past year, and which do you want to work with over the next year? Please check all that apply.

Neovim is the most admired code editor in the 2024 Stacked Overflow Developer Survey

Source: https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2024/technology#admired-and-desired-new-collab-tools-desire-admire

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[–] GreatRam@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sunk cost fallacy lol

[–] ericjmorey@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

Stockholm Syndrome tbh

[–] sxan@midwest.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm not surprised at Helix's numbers, either. I wish we could sort by Admired; I think the picture would be more interesting.

Using my newly patented VisualSort, it looks like it'd go:

  1. NeoVim
  2. Visual Studio Code
  3. Rider
  4. DataGrip
  5. IPython
  6. Goland
  7. Vim
  8. Helix ... 27 others

So, in the top 22%. And I think some of the others are cheating & cutting themselves short at the same time, because vim and nvim are fairly indistinguishable, and isn't Goland based on IntelliJ?

What's weird is that I've never heard of Rider or DataGrip[^1], yet Kakoune isn't even on the list.

Sad to see Netbeans sink so far, though; back in the day, when I was a Java developer, it was my favorite, being far lighter weight than Eclipse and having a really decent WYSIWYG GUI designer. Nobody uses Java for desktop apps anymore, though, do they?

[^1] Edit: oh. .NET, and SQL. Well, I guess you could consider both to be programming languages if you squint a bit.

Edit #2: surveys are hard, but I really take exception to their OS survey, which they sum up as "windows is the most popular," and then they have Linux broken up into 5 major distributions, and then yet another catch-all for "other distribution." Windows is just "Windows," not "Windows 11," "Windows 10," "Windows XP," and "other Windows" (although they do break out WSL). And that's not even counting Android. If you add up all of the Linuxes, it's more popular than Windows (by this survey).

Seriously, who wrote this?

[–] NostraDavid@programming.dev 1 points 1 year ago

[^1] Edit: oh. .NET, and SQL. Well, I guess you could consider both to be programming languages if you squint a bit.

I'm hoping they'll have a separate Query Language list. We need to know more query languages because SQL has wayyy too much power, IMO.

[–] Thcdenton@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

THERE IS ANOTHER

[–] ericjmorey@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

That one didn't score as high, but I think it's because it hasn't matured yet. Linux support is in beta last I heard.

[–] SQkwax5cJJ2N9b@programming.dev -1 points 1 year ago

Plus, an editor that isnt linux first is a super mega behemoth ick. Hard pass.

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Love how the lowest 3 are Eclipse, NetBeans, and Code::Blocks

[–] CameronDev@programming.dev 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Those are the 3 I was forced to use in Uni. Only one missing is Bluejay

[–] AVincentInSpace@pawb.social 1 points 1 year ago

These companies really do have a competition going for who can make the shittiest Java IDE, huh

[–] ExtremeDullard@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I must be a minority then. I tried it once - as in, I made a real, honest attempt at liking it and making it work for me - and all it managed to do is show me it's buggy and confused, and to convince me to steer well clear of it and stick to vanilla Vim.

I really really dislike Neovim.

Also, I question the vailidy of a survey in which VSCode is 13 times more "desired" - whatever that means, it's not like it's hard to procure - than VSCodium, given that VSCodium is VSCode sans the Microsoft spyware. Makes no sense to me...