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[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 hours ago

It has little to do with Americans being violent. It comes down to population density. The US has a ton of places without the population density for pick pocketing to be effective.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 12 points 2 hours ago

I often find Americans abroad to be quite charming in how American they are. Certainly, there are some that are obnoxious (and even their friendliness can be obnoxiousness in a way), but it can be quite endearing; Americans (especially the ones you meet while travelling) are so outgoing, and they're so keen to make connections with people. Like, is it cringe when an American says "oh my great great grandfather was Scottish", as if makes any difference at all that they are 1/16 Scottish? Yeah, somewhat. But after a friend explained to me that she sees it as coming from a deep desire to connect with other people, I began to see it as quite sweet.

It's part of why I grieve for what's going on in America right now. "American-ness" is a messy, mixed concept, and it would be unreasonable to ignore how much of that concept is deeply problematic. However, I feel that there is goodness within that concept, and the people in power at the moment seem hell bent on destroying or undermining what goodness exists there.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This is definitely a win for the Americans, beating the shit out of pickpockets is awesome.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

Unfortunately it has an unintended consequence of criminals being more aggressive. If you as a potential pickpocket know they will throw hands regardless, you might as well start with maximum violence, save yourself some trouble.
Parisian pickpockets are quite unpleasant but at least you know they will not go beyond stealing your wallet while you're distracted.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 hours ago

Or just deciding your wallet wasn't worth getting punched in the face.

[–] BackwardsUntoDawn@infosec.pub 4 points 2 hours ago

the only time I ever see it in the US is music festivals

[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 30 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

sidenote, the reading of a thread on twitter is hellish. Top to bottom be damned, it's like 3 different UIs in one.
Especially if there's a little addon from Tumblr at the end of something.
why isnt the reddit type formatting good enough?!

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 20 points 5 hours ago (3 children)

It is, your just not gonna find pickpockets in rural places and most people don't leave their county, let alone state so people are clueless how the world at large works. Go to any big city and you'll find pick pockets at work. Further to that, many of their tourist places are far apart and remote so less likely to find them in the same kind of places as Europe, which draws large volumes of people reliably to the sames places from all over the world.

For the record, American's don't like anything.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 16 points 4 hours ago

While you will find pickpockets in major tourist spots in the US, they are not nearly as common as elsewhere. Here we just prefer the good ol' stick-up.

[–] nomy@lemmy.zip 5 points 4 hours ago

American’s don’t like anything.

I'm offended sir, now if you'll excuse me, I need to attend to my hamburger!

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[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 6 hours ago (18 children)

In São Paulo it was a little mini-assault.

You'd get shoved from behind, maybe bumped into from the side, while yet another guy is actually taking your shit. Extra credit if you're at a curb so you stumble.

Then everybody splits, your instinct is to turn around to see the guy who shoved you, by the time you've done that and realized what happened, your shit is goooone.

What are they doing in Paris that the mark has a chance to grab them? I guess if you're in a reasonably athletic pack of 4-5, but at that point surely there are easier targets?

I suppose people who don't watch American sports don't appreciate that there are many obese Americans who can still run 40 yards in six seconds and expertly smash you into the ground when they get there.

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 4 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I was almost pickpocketed in Paris when I was out late at night and stupid drunk to the point I was seeing double. I had sat down on the curb because standing wasn't great. They came up behind me and crouched down without me noticing until they made their move. I instantly went into fight mode and almost stabbed them. Super dumb but I was very drunk and it was just like instinct that they were trying to steal my knife so the only option was stab them in the face with it before they could use it to stab me. As soon as I got the knife back I had the blade open and they jumped back looking terrified like I was a wild animal about to attack, which is kind of what I felt like. Super weird experience. I think they were really just grabbing what they could and happened to get my knife instead of my wallet but being a drunk American my first instinct was kill or be killed.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 hours ago

In my city in the UK, there have been a lot of thefts recently where someone will grab a phone out of someone's hand and then escape on a moped or bike. Sometimes they start out on foot and hop on a vehicle, but sometimes it's a "drive by" pickpocketing, so to speak (though calling it pickpocketing feels a tad erroneous if there are no pockets involved).

In big European cities, a more subtle version of what you describe can be quite common. Like if a suspicious person bumps into you (in a manner that's fairly common in a big city), people who suspect that they have been pickpocketed may pat the pocket that their phone or wallet is in to check that things are still there. This is then observed by someone working with that first person, and they watch and wait for an opportunity to surreptitiously swoop in. When it happens, even if you immediately feel that you have been pickpocketed, it can be difficult to discern who it was.

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[–] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 20 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I live in Canada, there's surprisingly little pickpocketing here too, and we don't have the same gun/weapon laws.

Like the Americans, we'll straight up beat you to a pulp if you try some shit, and we're very sorry about that.... You motherfucker.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

If you want to steal shit, at least be moral about it and go to a walmart or something. I'm sorry but I'm not even going to pretend to be sorry about a pickpocket targeting normal people getting his (or her) ass beaten.

Though, on that note, is it harder or riskier to shoplift in Europe? Maybe that's why we have fewer pickpockets because stores are much easier and safer targets. Unless you get a particularly enthusiastic mall cop after you, even if you get caught, it'll probably be a fairly polite interaction involving more disappointment than rage, all the way from capture to sentencing, at least in Canada.

Plus these days the odds of getting cash is low and the expensive device everyone carries has gps tracking built in, so the reward might be too low for the risk.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 2 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

If you see someone shoplifting, no you didn't.

Edit: to clarify, I agree with you, and that's part of the intention of leaving this quip here

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