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[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 3 points 57 minutes ago

Everyone who's had to deal with these grots: shoulda let the Americans finish the job

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 7 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

The pickpocket has already failed if the mark sees them, so not sure what was happening here. And people who are not used to pick pockets would not likely be looking out for them. Were they going around in groups wearing “Official Paris Olympics Pickpocket” hi-vis vests?

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 points 31 minutes ago

On the contrary, I'm American and agree with the experience of never having things taken off me, however I'm still always thinking about it when I'm in a crowded area, even more so when I'm traveling. If I was in Europe where I know pickpocketing is actually more of a problem, I'd be doubly cautious. All this and I'm not racist or xenophobic like a lot of Americans.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 35 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

I often find Americans abroad to be quite charming in how American they are. Certainly, there are some that are obnoxious (and even their friendliness can be obnoxiousness in a way), but it can be quite endearing; Americans (especially the ones you meet while travelling) are so outgoing, and they're so keen to make connections with people. Like, is it cringe when an American says "oh my great great grandfather was Scottish", as if makes any difference at all that they are 1/16 Scottish? Yeah, somewhat. But after a friend explained to me that she sees it as coming from a deep desire to connect with other people, I began to see it as quite sweet.

It's part of why I grieve for what's going on in America right now. "American-ness" is a messy, mixed concept, and it would be unreasonable to ignore how much of that concept is deeply problematic. However, I feel that there is goodness within that concept, and the people in power at the moment seem hell bent on destroying or undermining what goodness exists there.

[–] Test_Tickles@lemmy.world 9 points 2 hours ago

Plenty of us are just entitled psychopaths who ate too much lead paint as children, but I think you are correct that the rest of us are looking for connections. We come from a place where our traditions are shallow and our heritage is mostly just awful. We are not only looking to connect, but we are also essentially a bunch of orphans trying to desperately figure out who we are and where we belong.
I know most other people find it obnoxious, so I never really bring it up, but I do, it's also an invitation to tell me more about who you are and where you come from.

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 hours ago

It has little to do with Americans being violent. It comes down to population density. The US has a ton of places without the population density for pick pocketing to be effective.

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 18 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

This is definitely a win for the Americans, beating the shit out of pickpockets is awesome.

[–] Nalivai@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

Unfortunately it has an unintended consequence of criminals being more aggressive. If you as a potential pickpocket know they will throw hands regardless, you might as well start with maximum violence, save yourself some trouble.
Parisian pickpockets are quite unpleasant but at least you know they will not go beyond stealing your wallet while you're distracted.

[–] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 0 points 2 hours ago

Yes, of course, capitulation always works....

[–] Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works 6 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Or just deciding your wallet wasn't worth getting punched in the face.

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[–] TriflingToad@sh.itjust.works 36 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

sidenote, the reading of a thread on twitter is hellish. Top to bottom be damned, it's like 3 different UIs in one.
Especially if there's a little addon from Tumblr at the end of something.
why isnt the reddit type formatting good enough?!

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

complaining on lemmy about twitters UI somehow earned elon musk two dollars

[–] BackwardsUntoDawn@infosec.pub 6 points 6 hours ago

the only time I ever see it in the US is music festivals

[–] AlexLost@lemmy.world 20 points 10 hours ago (5 children)

It is, your just not gonna find pickpockets in rural places and most people don't leave their county, let alone state so people are clueless how the world at large works. Go to any big city and you'll find pick pockets at work. Further to that, many of their tourist places are far apart and remote so less likely to find them in the same kind of places as Europe, which draws large volumes of people reliably to the sames places from all over the world.

For the record, American's don't like anything.

[–] pjwestin@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I grew up in New York City and now live in Boston and I've never encountered a pickpocket. I've been mugged three times and had a mentally unbalanced homeless guy punch me in the face unprovoked, but I've never been pickpocketed.

[–] Roopappy@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

Agreed. Grew up in dense East Coast cities in the 80s and 90s, pickpocketing was not a thing that happened.

[–] Jiggle_Physics@sh.itjust.works 21 points 8 hours ago

While you will find pickpockets in major tourist spots in the US, they are not nearly as common as elsewhere. Here we just prefer the good ol' stick-up.

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[–] eestileib@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 10 hours ago (19 children)

In São Paulo it was a little mini-assault.

You'd get shoved from behind, maybe bumped into from the side, while yet another guy is actually taking your shit. Extra credit if you're at a curb so you stumble.

Then everybody splits, your instinct is to turn around to see the guy who shoved you, by the time you've done that and realized what happened, your shit is goooone.

What are they doing in Paris that the mark has a chance to grab them? I guess if you're in a reasonably athletic pack of 4-5, but at that point surely there are easier targets?

I suppose people who don't watch American sports don't appreciate that there are many obese Americans who can still run 40 yards in six seconds and expertly smash you into the ground when they get there.

[–] ultranaut@lemmy.world 11 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

I was almost pickpocketed in Paris when I was out late at night and stupid drunk to the point I was seeing double. I had sat down on the curb because standing wasn't great. They came up behind me and crouched down without me noticing until they made their move. I instantly went into fight mode and almost stabbed them. Super dumb but I was very drunk and it was just like instinct that they were trying to steal my knife so the only option was stab them in the face with it before they could use it to stab me. As soon as I got the knife back I had the blade open and they jumped back looking terrified like I was a wild animal about to attack, which is kind of what I felt like. Super weird experience. I think they were really just grabbing what they could and happened to get my knife instead of my wallet but being a drunk American my first instinct was kill or be killed.

[–] AnarchistArtificer@slrpnk.net 9 points 6 hours ago

In my city in the UK, there have been a lot of thefts recently where someone will grab a phone out of someone's hand and then escape on a moped or bike. Sometimes they start out on foot and hop on a vehicle, but sometimes it's a "drive by" pickpocketing, so to speak (though calling it pickpocketing feels a tad erroneous if there are no pockets involved).

In big European cities, a more subtle version of what you describe can be quite common. Like if a suspicious person bumps into you (in a manner that's fairly common in a big city), people who suspect that they have been pickpocketed may pat the pocket that their phone or wallet is in to check that things are still there. This is then observed by someone working with that first person, and they watch and wait for an opportunity to surreptitiously swoop in. When it happens, even if you immediately feel that you have been pickpocketed, it can be difficult to discern who it was.

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