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Lawmakers in Florida are raising alarm over documents suggesting immigrant children and pregnant women could be detained at 'Alligator Alcatraz.'

A draft operational plan obtained by the Miami Herald suggests minors could indeed be transported to the controversial site in the Everglades. The 35-page undated document details protocols to "separate minors from unrelated adults" and to provide "snacks and water" to minors, pregnant women and detainees with medical conditions during transport.

"The State of Florida is planning to send pregnant women and children to the 'Alligator Alcatraz' detention camp," wrote State Senator Carlos Guillermo Smith on social media. "This is totally un-American. We cannot be silent."

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[–] WrenFeathers@lemmy.world 15 points 7 hours ago

Call it what it is: Alligator Auschwitz

[–] Formfiller@lemmy.world 6 points 5 hours ago

When trump dies the world will celebrate

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 15 points 8 hours ago

It's concentration camp. Why is anyone surprised?

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 2 points 5 hours ago

Call it what it is: a concentration camp, a death camp, or perhaps Alligator Auschwitz.

Alcatraz housed convicted felons. This place is housing non-criminals. Immigration is a civil infraction, like a parking ticket. If you ever stole something from the store or got in a fight, you're more of a criminal than these folks.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 16 points 10 hours ago (6 children)

Honestly, how is it any better to send young men there? I'm not wild about sending pregnant women and children there obviously, but...are we indicating that men don't matter?

[–] MDCCCLV@lemmy.ca 14 points 8 hours ago

It said pregnant women and children. Which are both vulnerable populations that are more at risk for death from severe heat stress and malnutrition and stress .

[–] fodor@lemmy.zip 1 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Honestly, did you look at any of the pictures? You think people with delicate health conditions should be sent there? Really?

Also, I'm assuming you're genuine, but there are many people who post similar comments, things like "All lives matter." And yes, human life is worth respect, but at the same time, you don't want to be confused with a bigoted troll.

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[–] PedroMaldonado@lemmy.world 54 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Its a concentration camp. Don't call it alligatoralcatraz.

[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 12 points 8 hours ago

Exactly. Call it Alligator Auschwitz.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 34 points 12 hours ago

Alligator Auswitz

[–] pawnfuture@lemmy.world 24 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

Based on their laws, if the adverse setting they've placed a pregnant woman in causes a miscarriage, all of the employees are partially responsible for a homicide right? Since life begins at conception right?

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 19 points 12 hours ago

The problem in your logic here is that immigrant children aren't people in their eyes, so fetus or not they can't be murdered.

[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 96 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

So they're sending children to death camps already? I thought it would take longer than this

[–] IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world 43 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

they were already pushing children in concentration camps last trump administration.

[–] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (1 children)

God, how much I despise democrats and their BS ratchet.

[–] Jolly_Platypus@lemmy.world 31 points 13 hours ago

Florida Lawmakers Sound Alarm Over Plans 'To Send Pregnant Women & Children' to ~~'Alligator Alcatraz'~~ concentration camp

FTFY

[–] SlartyBartFast@sh.itjust.works 68 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Xaphanos@lemmy.world 22 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] floo@retrolemmy.com 48 points 15 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Brokuli@sopuli.xyz 39 points 13 hours ago

The message is good, the use of AI is not. Heres a hand drawn one:

Credit

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 13 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (7 children)

Ewww, AI slop

Not even original:

[–] qantravon@lemmy.world 10 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Honest question, what's flagging this as AI for you? I can generally catch them pretty easily, but I'm not seeing it here.

[–] Spezi@feddit.org 21 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

The sepia filter and the styling of the font as well as the whole overall feel is exactly like ChatGPT does cartoons.

[–] Rinn@awful.systems 11 points 12 hours ago

Honestly, thank fuck for the AI studio Ghibli trend, they overtrained the models on that stuff and caused the easily recognizable piss filter to appear. Makes finding AI slop at a glance easier.

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[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 18 points 13 hours ago

Ok so. How has no one taken a drone out to this facility and gotten a recording of the entire exterior of it?

Because based on what I've seen, a couple of guys with bolt cutters could do some serious damage to it.

Hell, have we learned nothing from Ukraine? Get some cheap ass FPV drones to land with strips of thermite?

Like I'm 1.5k miles from where it is, so that's a bit of a problem for me. But how is there no one in Florida capable of this kind of thinking?

It's like everyone completely has no idea what "sabotage" is, and that you don't need to hurt people to defeat a regime.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 13 points 13 hours ago (15 children)

But sending men there is “okay.”

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[–] devolution@lemmy.world 30 points 16 hours ago (5 children)

Latinos overwhelmingly voted for this 70%.

Sorry, not sorry.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 19 points 12 hours ago

No they didn't. You just posted a made up a number and did it in the service of dehumanizing a minority population. And the people getting deported (at least now) didn't vote for anyone, they aren't citizens.

This comment is sus as hell. Exactly something a right winger would post to cause mistrust in opposition groups. And even if it isn't, you need to learn some media literacy if you're just parroting an obviously fake percentage like that.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 13 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

the stats exist, you can check them instead of making shit up; the Latine vote was pretty close, but they still voted more for harris globally, tho i believe Latino men in particular voted ever so slightly more for trump

the only racial group who overwhelmingly voted trump, across men and women, and this is gonna SHOCK you!!, are whites.

whites voted for this; when are we rounding them up in concentration camps? when are we deporting them to europe?

[–] original_charles@lemmy.world 22 points 13 hours ago (2 children)

Nobody deserves this. These people were suckered by a conman who has decades of experience conning people. That doesn't warrant a death sentence or even imprisonment.

If a successful coalition is to be formed, it has to be made up of former Trump voters. We won't have the numbers otherwise.

[–] undefined@lemmy.hogru.ch 10 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

This is true, but at the same time those voting for him need to be smarter than a rock come voting season. It’s hard to have empathy for those crying about how Trump has wrecked their lives after they so shamelessly/stupidly supported him.

[–] original_charles@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

"Empathy" is what the right completely lacks, and it's what Democrats have begun abandoning because it's not in vogue. However, empathy is the one thing that helps us unite across boundaries that the right tries to convince us are unsurpassable. Empathy is what makes us strong.

I get that being angry is easier than being productive, but we really need to be productive right now, and writing off large groups of people because of their perceived failings is not helping.

Most of the people being sent to these camps are going to be undocumented, so they couldn't have voted in the election if they tried.

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[–] FreshParsnip@lemmy.ca 43 points 15 hours ago (1 children)
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[–] themadcodger@kbin.earth 21 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah, at this point I have zero sympathy for anyone who voted for them. You find yourself without health insurance, a home, being deported, having your workers deported? Welcome to the find out phase of FAaFO.

[–] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 3 points 9 hours ago

None of these people voted at all. They literally couldn't vote against this.

[–] Boddhisatva@lemmy.world 29 points 16 hours ago

"What we're witnessing isn't about security or solving problems," they said in a joint statement, "It's about inhumane political theater that endangers real people."

Yep. It's a theater of cruelty that would have delighted the Marquis de Sade.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 18 points 15 hours ago

All the alarms have been going off for months now. But every organization that were supposed to do something about it were disbanded, defunded or rendered powerless.

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