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[–] Vanilla_PuddinFudge@infosec.pub 48 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Good, an influencer in the millions of followers is bringing visibility to FOSS and independent technology.

Bad, he said the n word once and joked about jews when he was in his early 20's.

Devil's Advocate: If pewdiepie was really a nazi, his channel wouldn't be about gaming and tech, it would be two spaces away from Joe Rogan in your podcast app. The dude is harmless.

You guys don't really get it. Back then, people blurted out edgelord shit whether they meant it or even understood it just for a meme or repetition or even quell nervousness on a livestream. God forbid any of you hear recordings from Xbox Live circa 2010.

All this "is he still a fascist talk" speaks volumes. He never was.

I said edgy shit and the n-word online when I was a teen, am I a fascist? Nope, voted blue since Obama and my cousins are hispanic and well loved. Kids gonna kid, adults grow up, realize wtf they were doing was idiotic and move on.

If you're witchhunting fascists and you land on pewdiepie, start back at the top of your list. Your fascometer's sensitivity is too high.

[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

You don't have to be a committed fascist to be criticized for normalizing fascist dogwhistles and symbolism. "Other people do it too" is not a good excuse either.

That being said, it was a long time ago, and I do think he understands it was stupid and wouldn't do it again.

[–] mrodri89@lemmy.zip 46 points 2 days ago (3 children)

I love his new path in content. Seems like he grew up to be a positive influence in the ethical tech regard.

[–] redditor_chatter44@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I still remember his arch linux vid he did

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Impossible! Nobody can remember something that happened a few weeks ago!

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[–] Noerknhar@feddit.org 88 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Funny how the comments in this thread went from "haha he's degoogling on YouTube?" to "do you believe in rehabilitation?" - "HE'S A NAZI!!!".

It truly feels like back in the good old Reddit days. You either get popcorn or your pitchfork. There's nothing in-between.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 51 points 2 days ago (2 children)

he brought it on himself by accidentally naziing several times, even while he ostensibly apologized after he got called out for it.

he has had a hand in normalizing this shit we're in today and people are right to be angry at him. especially since his alleged rehabilitation has been as quiet as his nazi winks and nods were loud.

i do believe in rehabilitation, but i think for someone his size you can't just do it quietly. you have to be against it and try to right your wrongs. that's what hunter avallone did for example, and he's significantly smaller than pewdiepie.

pewdiepie's damage was much more consequential and he has a responsibility to do more than not casually naziing anymore.

[–] Robaque@feddit.it 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

What did this "quiet rehabilitation" even entail? Did he actually take responsibility for the dogwhistles?

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 12 points 2 days ago

don't even know honestly; just responding to people's claims that he's changed.

[–] Fedizen@lemmy.world 11 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

I think the algorithms and media advertising are setup to monetize outrage and he got big precisely because he was willing to say and do anything for attention.

If not for the algorithms we'd probably not ever have known who pewdie pie is and tbh we'd all be better off forgetting about him.

I'm tired of people talking about the "responsibility of celebrities" - most of them are only there because they're shitty. The system filters for it.

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 13 points 2 days ago (3 children)

then people shouldn't bitch about it when they get backlash

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[–] Fubarberry@sopuli.xyz 10 points 2 days ago

That's human nature. People are complicated, and everyone has negative and positive aspects to them (granted some have mostly negative or mostly positive traits). It's a lot easier to have a black and white opinion on people, either you really like someone or you really don't like someone. When dealing with thousands of famous people that you don't know, simplifying your opinion on them to a black and white opinion is a shortcut we take to keep from getting overwhelmed.

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[–] blah3166@piefed.social 105 points 2 days ago (15 children)

some people in here are apparently perfect and don't believe others can grow and learn from their mistakes. what a childish self-centered perspective.

[–] samus12345@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 day ago

I'm willing to believe he might have learned from his mistakes, but he was 27 when he did the most egregious things. More than old enough to know better. The older you are when you do stupid shit, the harder it will be for people to forgive you.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here's the problem with public figures in particular: they have an extrinsic motivation to make others believe they've changed. You can't actually know if they're doing it for the money or because they actually believe it.

The same issue goes for doing good too. Do people donate to charity because they want to or because they want people to see them? Is it still good if it's the latter? Is there a difference functionally?

[–] blah3166@piefed.social 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

100% agree, but this logic applies to everyone, not just public figures.

they [public figures] have an extrinsic motivation to make others believe they've changed.

Replace public figures with people and its just as accurate. Nobody wants to be the bad guy, even demon-spawn incarnate, Stephen Miller tries to put everything in a positive light "detaining violent illegals" vs "breaking innocent families apart and sending them to concentration camps".

Judge people based on their actions, not their words.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 2 points 1 day ago

I agree, though it's to a much lesser extent. Regular people can find a small group that support whatever views that have without any push back. Public figures make money (or get elected, or whatever else) off of public perseption, though this sometimes creates a situation where being bad is positive for them too.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 days ago (6 children)

Yeah no... It's very easy to not behave like a fucking Nazi.

[–] blah3166@piefed.social 6 points 1 day ago

You're exposing your privilege and lack of understanding other perspectives.

Not everyone grew up knowing the impact words or phrases have on marginalized communities. I reflect on the day I learned women think twice about going for a runs at night. Growing up a white-passing guy in a relatively safe neighborhood, the possibility of getting raped was a foreign concept, but a sad reality for many women. In that same vein, you lack the humility to consider people like me, who grow up in an environment where slurs were common and "just a joke".

I've educated myself, learned from my past, reflected on how my actions may have impacted others at the time and walked away from ignorance. I am not who I used to be, and we must allow people to grow, or would you prefer to see no change?

If you grew up perfect, you should feel blessed that you've had the opportunity. Not everyone gets that.

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[–] reluctant_squidd@lemmy.ca 29 points 2 days ago (4 children)

I am not a follower of his, but I am certainly an advocate for de-ing having just finally rid myself of Micros**t, which was preceded by getting rid of almost all of the family streaming subs.

The Steamdeck is actually a great device for this simply because it is a very functional pc in desktop mode. Throw in a Bluetooth mouse and keyboard, with even a generic dock and it can rival most laptops, especially with the added video capabilities it already has.

I find myself using it as a pc almost as much as a gaming device, just because it works so well for both.

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[–] mintiefresh@piefed.ca 21 points 2 days ago

Pretty interesting usage of his Steam Deck. I feel like it was overkill lol. But as he said, sometimes it's cool to just use what you have.

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