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Look, if it takes you 2 days to debloat windows, linux is gonna take a real fucking while to learn right.

I walked this path at first, too. For me, it was more like my stubborn battle with Microsoft than not wanting to learn Linux (I had already learned Debian some time ago).

I've flip flopped back and forth, but after the recent bs with screenshot and OS-side ads (for a PAID software, mind you) I haven't even given Windows a second glance anymore.

If you've got the knowledge to truly debloat Windows, you have the knowledge to set up Linux.

Microsoft's incompetence is the best thing to happen to Linux in recent years.

Debloating windows is not a one-time adventure, it's what you're subscribing to do every now and then.

source: am recovering windoholic.

I'd like to try Linux with minimal commitment and no setup. Give it real test drive with some of my most important tools.

If and when I decide to make the switch, I want to have access to my normal windows machine. I'd keep it around if I need it. But prefer if it went away slowly. I want to work with and communicate with windows users with neither of us having to jump through weird hoops.

I want my printer to work.

Problems will come up, but I don't want it to dominate my time.

I'm sure most of you will say not to worry, but until I've logged some real hours, I will.

Guys, I'm a Linux user, too, but can we stop having these fake arguments, please?

Many such cases

I never met anyone in real life who said the stuff shown in this meme. The handful of comments here are few and far between.

Spent two weeks debloating

The folks who care enough to debloat are either already on Linux or would spend maybe 1-2h to make a few fixes, before they get something they are okay with.

Just install Linux

For those who stick with Windows, it's often more than "just switching". They may need certain software, they may not be tech-savvy, they may be insecure about whether they could handle the occasional hiccup on a system that is completely new to them. All valid reasons for hesitation, and "just switch" is about as helpful as "just cheer up".

Because learning Linux would take time.

I've used Linux for 15 years now, and I'm still constantly learning new things. Linux is so much more usable now than it ever was, and I also think more people should switch. But suggesting that you "learn Linux" in two weeks' time is just silly and dishonest IMO.

I wish we as a community could stop with this sense of superiority and actually acknowledge people's humane struggles to help them make the move.

GUYS. Linux is stupid because there's no way to get LEGO Star Wars Skywalker Saga NPC Spawner mod to work. Maybe it fails because there isn't a way to get DirectX SDK installed in protontricks but some mods work without this anyway. I'm going to go back to Windows Vista as GOD intended. Or maybe Windows Longhorn.

Thanks in advance.

I never understand this mindset because a person who is technically skilled like this is exactly the kind of person who wouldn’t struggle with Linux.

They’re already the kind of person who would be an excellent Linux user. I can only imagine that, for whatever reason, they’ve grown emotionally attached and are simply too stubborn to consider anything else.

Learning Linux is nothing. Most people will never need anything outside of the GUI. There are distros that are very close to Windows in the GUI.

Oh well. Same people think switching to a Mac will take effort.

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Lost four installations at my house, and I have Microsoft certifications professionally so I'm fairly invested.

Likely to be another few as I move the rest of my immediate family over to Linux slowly also.

Linux takes a long time to learn and is often quirky and strange in unexpected ways- life long Windows users already know how horrible Windows is and its quirky strange behaviors.

We stick with what we know. Unlearning behaviors is doubly hard when replacing them with something better.

It takes less 2 hours really. Playbooks exist now and makes it way easier to use Windows XP 11. Cuz that's all anyone really wants.

Actually, stop telling people to "learn" linux. Linux is either supposed to be easily navigable without the Command Line, or it's not the right thing for most people.

Either dumb it down, or don't expect people to learn it.

It'd be nice if public schools used Linux for coursework instead of Windows. But it seems they settled with chromebooks, so now kids are even worse off.

There’s known knowns, known unknowns, and unknown unknowns. The first requires a lot less brainpower than the last.

I just did a fresh install of windows 11 last week, after my attempt to switch to Plasma on ~~Debian~~ Fedora did not go very well. While it's absolutely true that some de-bloating must be done right after install, it took me like 15 minutes. I spent at least that long just finding the three different goddamn places I had to go to change the wallpaper in Plasma.

*Edit: wrong flavor of linux

I am one of those people.

I'm sorry but I can't dedicate the time. Last time I tried to install it for someone else I went down a 5h rabbit hole of finding a driver for a scanner, and I was at the point where I had custom pkg repositories and needed to fix pkg dependency conflicts myself and I don't have the OS knowledge to do all this, and I didn't have time because I had to travel back again.

When I tried installing it for myself, I was missing critical software for a variety of things. For example, there's no good DAW on Linux, and even if there was, lots of VST plugins are only Linux compatible. Things like Adobe Premiere Pro and Adobe After Effects have no solid alternative to this day for Linux and hence I'm struggling to replace them. Blender is on Linux (obv) but for example render engines usually only come with software for windows.

And then there's a bunch of things where I'm not sure how compatible they are even if they were to run on Linux. Office uses proprietary file format constraints to lock down their ecosystem. Sucks, but everyone uses it, so I'm stuck. Unreal Engine, lots games, my audio interface, drivers for obscure small devices I need? I just don't know and I have to dedicate time to researching all of it.

I hope you can see why someone like me has a very hard time just switching over. Yes I can just pull the plug and do it, but I will get no work done for a solid 2 weeks and even after that I will be heavily constrained.

And this all on top of the fact that I regularly set up Linux VMs for specific things which break way too often on regular use. Which also does not spark joy.

I hope you can understand why I'm fine debloating windows with Chris Titus for half an hour and then just enjoying 4 years on it without worrying about all of that is easier.

And believe me, I bought a notebook and will try to go CachyOS x KDE Plasma on that, but it will be an experiment and I have lots of doubt that this can replace my setup.

Fun coincidence, when I was about to write a supporting comment to this thread, my Fedora 42 running on X1 Carbon hard froze without any apparent reason and I had to hard reboot it.

windows debloating brought me more issues than using Linux, if windows is truly that much of an ass then you might as well have it as an option in a dual boos setup where you use it only when necessary (preferably non-debloated so it doesn't fuck itself when you need it)