i can enjoy a movie i think is objectively bad and vice versa.
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Agreed. Especially with ritualistic movies like cult classics and holiday movies. The experience surrounding them is more important than the content.
Being I watch plenty of bad movies I have sorta the reverse. 90% of the time im like, did I just waste two hours of my life.
so its sorta funny but I feel this comic applies to my reply on this. https://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/1673201256-20230108.png
I think a lot of movies fall into that category tbh it takes a lot of qualities to stack up for the movie to be bad or good and most fall somewhere in the middle
It's pretty easy. There are bad movies, like Star Wars: The Last Jedi and most Marvel movies. Then, there are good movies like Waterworld, Demolition Man, and Battlefield Earth.
There are good movies like Star Wars, and there are bad movies... like Star Wars :D
Ain't it the truth!
I love movies like Battlefield Earth and Showgirls, there's just something about them y'know?
I think most movies are dogshit, but the bad ones are fun to riff on with my friends.
My criteria for what makes a good movie seem straight forward to me, but apparently I ask too much as shown by the vast majority of movies being frustratingly bad.
I can suspend disbelief for lore and character, but not for blatantly dumb decision making, plot holes, or forcing a story event. Entire plot lines based on simple misunderstandings ruin stories immediately for me, as do hamfisted agenda pushing, or stories hinging on "common knowledge" that's known bullshit. (Looking at whatever that movie was a few years back that started with the narrator stating we only use 10% of our brains, fuck off.)
Horror movies have their own indurating problems, which is too bad since it's my favorite genre when done well. For some reason, people always act like they're in a horror movie. Gotta check something in the basement? Better walk slow and look nervous, it's not totally unreasonable for someone to be afraid of their own fucking basement. Or the polar opposite, everything is fine no matter what, and I'm sure the several missing people are just playing a prank.
Can this problem be solved with simple communication? We better find some bullshit way to get rid of cell phones. uh, the battery died. Uh, ghosts aliens and monsters block signals. Uh the antagonists is a tech expert who jams phones. Uh, they're in the woods, there's no signal. (I've been in the woods, there's a signal.) Or they just decide to give up and base the plot in the 80s.
Lazy writing, in other words.
This took too long and I've lost interest in my rant, but I'll post it anyway.
This is more an arthouse thing for me, as if the story becomes completely incoherent I just assume it’s expressionism and I’m being challenged.
I think the only movie rating a entirely agreed with was Thor: Ragnarok being awesome and Thor: love and thunder sucking ass.
Also the wakanda cat man movie was AWESOME.
I hate going into a movie with expectations. That’s the quickest way to end up hating it. Even if I might be a fan and am looking forward to a particular film’s release. It’s far easier just to go in to a film with few expectations. Things that make a movie “bad” for me are: bad acting, bad writing, bad effects, or bad plot contrivances. IOW, something so egregious it pulls me out of enjoying what I’m watching and draws my attention to it.
For example - the new Star Wars films. They were fine for a cast of relative unknowns. Yeah, they had some heavy handed writing in spots that was bad, the worst being the pointless casino and kid scenes in the last one. But regardless it was fun. The previous three otoh had a stellar cast yet some of the worst wooden acting, writing, and the abuse of digital SFX was offensive.
(Best SW film made was Rogue One, IMO, tied with ANH because that introduced us to the franchise and had no baggage.)
Of course this is all movie dependent. Spoofs and the like or comedy are entirely different vs something like a drama. One won’t be held to a high standard, the other will need it to keep the audience engaged.
I have pretty low standards. I enjoy a good schlockfest. That said, the new Star Wars movies were awful. Genuinely awful. I watched the first two out of some sort of misguided loyalty to the franchise and hated almost every minute of both. Rey is possibly the blandest frontwomen in any movie, ever. She does nothing to earn her Jedi powers, and even less with them. Kylo Ren is a whiny baby with daddy issues. The first sequel tries so hard to be A New Hope, but just has none of the charisma or charm. It's sad.
I did like Luke's last stand, but there was so much else wrong with that movie, it was like putting fresh whipped cream on a cake made of shit. It's been years now, and I've barely considered watching the third at all. I don't think I have heard someone say a single good thing about it.
You could certainly skip the third. I hate to say it, the movies would probably be better without Ren and Rey.