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Biden says he'll shut down the border if deal gives him authority (www.politico.com)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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The White House statement comes after a week of frantic negotiations in the Senate.

President Joe Biden on Friday urged Congress to pass a bipartisan bill to address the immigration crisis at the nation’s southern border, saying he would shut down the border the day the bill became law.

“What’s been negotiated would — if passed into law — be the toughest and fairest set of reforms to secure the border we’ve ever had in our country,” Biden said in a statement. “It would give me, as President, a new emergency authority to shut down the border when it becomes overwhelmed. And if given that authority, I would use it the day I sign the bill into law.”

Biden’s Friday evening statement resembles a ramping up in rhetoric for the administration, placing the president philosophically in the camp arguing that the border may hit a point where closure is needed. The White House’s decision to have Biden weigh in also speaks to the delicate nature of the dealmaking, and the urgency facing his administration to take action on the border — particularly during an election year, when Republicans have used the issue to rally their base.

The president is also daring Republicans to reject the deal as it faces a make-or-break moment amid GOP fissures.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Can someone explain to me why the border shouldn’t be closed except to legal travel?

Because it sounds to me like illegal travel SHOULD be stopped. People immigrating illegally are working for super low wages, increasing supply of labor and therefore lowering demand. It’s bad for workers. I know people say “Americans won’t do those jobs” but that’s because they are paying nothing since they can get highly desperate exploitable people. Labor should be on the side of restricted immigration.

Note I’m not talking about asylum, but the USA shouldn’t be the only place people go for asylum. It’s my impression that most immigrants are economic anyways.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

There is no good reason except to create an underclass that provdes cheap labor. You know, like in 1860.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

What a stupid thing to focus on. I hate that the southern border is even a topic people bring up. It's a completely made up problem.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

6 million illegals in 3 years. Its a problem. Hell a couple thousand caused problems for NYC. How do tiny border towns stand a chance?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

You're forgetting that the entire reason why so many people enter illegally* is because it's next to impossible to enter legally unkess you have lots of connections in the US. Your average foreigner doesn't stand a chance.

Don't want 6 million people to enter illegally? Make it easier to enter legally. It's that simple, yet people like you will never understand that. "Securing the border" only makes the problem worse. We should be opening it instead.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

493,000 immigrant visas were given out in 2022. It's extremely easy to enter, just too many too quick, and y'all have to wait your turn.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Eh, but how much of that is tourist visas. And where are they coming from.

I'm of the opinion that an open border with Mexico is an issue. Which just should not be controversial.

But I'm also married to someone who entered with a tourism visa. Legal immigration is nearly impossible in the US. There are very very few options for a person to enter the country and be on a path to a green card. Saying otherwise is purely ignorant.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Non immigrant visas are up to 6.8 million in 2022.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

You should look at what the requirements look like for an immigrant Visa. The average person in South America does not have the ability to satisfy those requirements. But that doesn't mean they are unable to become a valuable and contributing member of society.

I know people in the US that came here illegally and have gone on to become business owners. But only because they were able to meet and marry a US citizen.

There needs to be a legal path to entry. And we should be stopping the flood of people coming over the border at the same time.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

We can only take so many, so quickly. What we're doing now is completely unsustainable.

So why not select for the best and brightest?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Stand a chance to what?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Maintain infrastructure, pay for roads that can handle the traffic, pay for public schools that can handle the masses, pay for enough fire fighters and trucks, shit like that, and ramp up in the time frame of 3 years

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

That's what taxes are for. Which undocumented immigrants pay.

https://apnews.com/article/fact-check-immigrants-taxes-rent-vaccine-requirements-983035929946

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago (2 children)

They pay sales taxes, sure. But they don't pay income or property taxes, not without an SSN. (Texas does not have an income tax, but has property taxes. The Feds have an income tax. Don't be pedantic)

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Sorry... so you're blaming immigrants for the fact that Texas' tax regulations are severely fucked up?

Maybe Texas shouldn't cater so much of their tax code to rich people? Shouldn't that be the issue?

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

How is having property tax but not income tax fucked up? How does it cater to rich people, any more than having income tax?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Undocumented immigrants pay income tax if they use someone else's SSN or even without an SSN by using an ITIN

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 year ago

So you're suggesting that illegal immigrants should steal identities to pay taxes?