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[–] remon@ani.social 2 points 2 weeks ago

At least 400 kilobyte.

[–] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 2 points 2 weeks ago

I'll colloquially use the word "fact" for extremely well supported claims, but in my head the only actual "facts" are mathematical derivations. Evidence supports the veracity of a claim, and a claim with a lot of evidence gets a tentative place in my world model, but any of those claims can be refuted by sufficient counter-evidence

[–] naught101@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

Depends how interesting or important or complex the thing is. If you tell me that your foot is 25cm long, I'll believe you without question. If you tell me it's 52cm, then you're going to have a hard time convincing me (unless you've already convinced me that you're a talking kangaroo).

This is why it's much more important to be skeptical of people's views on political issues too, because the situations are always complex, and important to different people in different ways.

[–] I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world 2 points 2 weeks ago

At least 4.

[–] starlinguk@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

I read proper peer reviewed research. I'm usually not a specialist on the subject, so I am unable to properly process any data available.

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Like with questions posted in a forum: at least, having little more to read than just its title ;)

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

What elaboration do you require from the title to allow you to answer the question fully?

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I would say, a good starting point would be a few examples of those so-called facts and their corresponding data.

Half-jokingly, I have little doubt I could find a lot of data demonstrating the earth is flat on flat-earth.org or whatever flat-earthers main website is called. But no matter the amount of data I would find there that still would not cut it as far as I'm concerned to accept their certainty as a fact—Incidentally, I also just answered your first question: it's not just the quantity of data, it's also its trustworthiness that should matter ;)

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I keep hearing "it isn't the quantity..." and I do not understand why it isn't seen as just as important as trustworthiness of source because even the best source needs a high amount of data to back up a claim.

On the topic of flat earthers, did you ever see the video of the guy who tried to demonstrate the earth was flat and proved it was round? The look on his face was priceless. haha

[–] Libb@jlai.lu 1 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I keep hearing “it isn’t the quantity…” and I do not understand why it isn’t seen as just as important as trustworthiness of source because even the best source needs a high amount of data to back up a claim.

consider my flat-earthers example: the trustworthiness of the source(s) is at least as important. If I told you my pseudo is 'Libb' you can bet that it is indeed so, even if that just me saying it. And that would remain true if, out of nowhere, 100s of people started telling you my pseudo was in reality 'Mickey' or 'Gertrude'. I would still be Libb. Conclusion? All by myself, against that hypotheticla large crowd, I'm still a more reliable source of info concerning my identity.

On the topic of flat earthers, did you ever see the video of the guy who tried to demonstrate the earth was flat and proved it was round? The look on his face was priceless. haha

No, and I'm almost wishing to see it. Almost.

I must admit the rise of flat earth theory came as a shock to me. I always have had a sweet spot for absurd theories but I could not imagine people taking those seriously. But maybe that's just me being manipulated/lobotomized by the government? As a matter of fact, I'm also a pro-vax and that may explain a lot :p

[–] Arkouda@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

consider my flat-earthers example: the trustworthiness of the source(s) is at least as important. If I told you my pseudo is ‘Libb’ you can bet that it is indeed so, even if that just me saying it. And that would remain true if, out of nowhere, 100s of people started telling you my pseudo was in reality ‘Mickey’ or ‘Gertrude’. I would still be Libb. Conclusion? All by myself, against that hypotheticla large crowd, I’m still a more reliable source of info concerning my identity.

The trustworthiness is absolutely important, and just as important to me, as quantity. The point I was making is it seems that a lot of people in the thread have been underrating the importance of quantity and over rating the importance of source quality. Even the most reputable sources can be wrong, especially in frontier sciences, which leads to a lot of retractions and rewrites.

Using your example, you could be lying.

No, and I’m almost wishing to see it. Almost.

It isn't worth hunting down, but worth a watch if you stumble across it. haha

I must admit the rise of flat earth theory came as a shock to me. I always have had a sweet spot for absurd theories but I could not imagine people taking those seriously. But maybe that’s just me being manipulated/lobotomized by the government? As a matter of fact, I’m also a pro-vax and that may explain a lot :p

It came as a shock to me as well. I enjoy reading about the absurd ideas people have in their heads, and I get why people believe in them. It makes sense to them, and they rely on nothing but personal observation and limited knowledge to form beliefs. They were failed as children in my opinion.

I too got my microchips and am possibly being manipulated by the government. Which one? Who knows. Monies on the US. lol

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[–] the_grass_trainer@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

Depending on the fact I should be able to find sources for it on .ORG and .GOV sites.

If i just find random blog posts, or facebook groups in the search results I take it with a grain of salt.

[–] melsaskca@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 weeks ago

Logical proof, is it reasonable and do peers agree. That could be a tiny amount of data or a large amount of data. It is specific to the "something".

[–] Professorozone@lemmy.world 1 points 2 weeks ago

Just Facebook! LOL

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