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Regardless of whether this pans out or not, as a non-American, it's insane to me that any of this stuff is in the hands of private companies in the first place.
I have a buddy that makes animations for video slot machines. When a new slot machine program is finished the FBI goes over everysingle line of code to make sure it is honest. There are no claims of proprietary information that prevents this evaluation. Our voting machines are treated with a lower standard than our slot machines.
Well of course. One handles money. Of course that's the priority.
Buy enough Trump meme coin and Kash Patel's FBI will just rubber stamp it.
To all the no “conspiracy” people. It’s important to remember all this “stolen election” shit from trump serves as pretext to encourage his base to cheat. If you truly believe you are playing with a cheater the only way left to win is to cheat. I wouldn’t be surprised if he did steal the election.
That’s the whole MO for the American people. If you don’t break the rules as much as possible you will lose because everyone else is doing it.
I'm not saying the election wasn't stolen, but there are a lot of data points tying individuals and businesses together (which is not hard when they're all billionaires and massive multinational companies), and not really any hard data proving the crime occurred. No evidence that UPS software updates have been used to install malware (malware would be needed to gain 'root access'), no evidence that StarLink devices can interact with cellular devices in ballot machines. No evidence of anything really, not even enough evidence to get a warrant to subpoena communications or look through firmware/software code.
I could probably piece together a story with just as many convincing links with any arbitrarily-chosen Billionaire, given enough time.
If they had hard evidence of any of what they're accusing, it would be world headline news. I hope they find it - but until then this is about as convincing as the 'very big evidence' of election tampering in 2016 by Dominion that Mike Lindell claimed he was about to drop on the public for several years.
Not to mention that any conspiracy would need to involve many local officials who would notice odd results in their area.
For example, my area of New Jersey leans heavily to the democrats and it would be odd if Cittarelli, the republican candidate, wins the governor's race for my town. I might not notice oddities in another location but in my town I would know and start asking questions. There are many people who would see the same and do likewise.
For the 2024 elections it would be hard to cheat the entire election. That might change but right now it's more likely that Trump won because Americans are not paying attention.
I'm only commenting here because it's the progressive politics lemmy.
This is hopeless cope bullshit. If the dems are going to win elections it's going to be through populist progressive policies. Unless they can conjure another Obama, and then succumb to even more reactionary fascism 8 years later, neoliberalism is done. Don't waste your time with this BlueAnon crap and go work for any progressive cause or campaign in your area, make yourself useful.
I feel like this is drifting into conspiracy theories pretty quickly.
Well, not with the right data to follow it up, I don't think. Statistical analyses are powerful tools when fed extensive data, such as historical US election results. However, if there's a good rebuttal to their findings, I'd like to learn about it, because the sources they cite are legitimate and they provide concrete examples.
Also, this whole thing falls in line with everything we've been hearing about the right, including their ties to other corrupt governments as part of the known & growing network of transnational organized crime, their rampant election tampering, and voter disenfranchisement. Trump is right in the middle of many Russian dealings, and Musk has every incentive to dismantle the agencies looking into him. If it sounds like a conspiracy, it's because it's part of one, but that doesn't necessarily make it any less real. [1]
Can you tell me where the concrete examples are? A 29-page PDF filled with graphics is insanely hard to parse on mobile
Trump literally said on camera, twice, that they rigged the election. I don't know why that footage did not rock the entire country.
Just say "no" to conspiracy theories kids.
There are statistical anomalies that need to be investigated. The data looks off, and while we can't undo the election, we can find and fix any loopholes that Putin / Trump / Musk exploited before the midterms to ensure it doesn't happen again.
Ballotproof was an AI ballot scanning app developed by someone Musk hired to Doge named Ethan Shao Tran. The app had a write function and could potentially generate/ alter ballots. The data from the election shows a bunch of instances where people voted down ballot Dem, but then Trump for president.
Kamala's rallies were packed while mango man had half empty events. Just look at yesterday. Millions in the streets to protest Trump while idk, 10's of people showed up to Trump's dumbass military parade. The man is simply not popular. There's no way he got the popular vote. He has a bunch of Stans, but they are by no means the majority.
The Russian tail described in detail in the below article was first seen in Putin's Referendum in 2020.
https://www.rferl.org/a/georgia-election-manipulation-russian-tail/33183374.html
It is apparent in Clark county, and all across the swing states. This needs to be investigated.
https://electiontruthalliance.org/clark-county%2C-nv
Lawsuits are being filed. One in New York was just granted discovery. I genuinely believe this is no theory, and the truth will come out eventually.
Investigating statistical anomalies is fine. Stating "she won" and claiming the election was rigged, as if it were a fact, without proof, is not.
Agreed, that is reckless, but election truth alliance and SMART elections have been very clear to not make that distinction. They have said outright that they cannot undo the election results either way because the electoral college already certified the last one, but it would help immensely if this was proven to secure the midterms. Republican representatives and senators surely are acting like they won't be voted out for their treasonous behavior, and with Trump immediately kneecapping CISA after getting into office, I get the feeling they are going to double down in the midterms and take even more seats. They might even be so bold to take 90% of the house and Senate. You heard Trump... "We're not going to have red and blue states anymore."
I do think Elon tweeting out specific numbers on who would have won and by what numbers, and him texting Joe Rogan 3 hours before that Trump won and he developed an app to track it. 
Then his kid saying "we quietly do whatever we want," and "they'll never know what we did" was quite the smoking gun. Toddlers don't spout out villainous shit like that. Imo he was repeating what he heard his dad say about trump.
it's a good piece, but the evidence presented is very weak; maybe because it has been cleaned up well, hard to say.
The evidence isn't just weak, it's practically non-existent.
A handful of tweets and some company sales? Come on. This is baseless conjecture at best. There's not a shred of technical evidence presented here.
Election experts have peered over the "statistical anomalies" this article highlights. Afaik all were debunked. The election result was within the polled margins.
I mean, the article even tries to make it suspicious that voters swung more in swing states... Like, duh? That's where the millions of campaign money were poored in.
There was also no evidence of vote flipping, there were a lot of ballots with only Trumps name ticked. But that was a purposeful campaign strategy ("don't worry if you don't like the local R candidate, just make sure to vote Trump"). They didn't flip voters, they managed to mobilize non-voters.
It's also no secret that Biden wasn't popular and Harris didn't meaningfully distinguish herself from him (would have been hard to do anyway). Many voters were also very poorly informed, some only finding out that Harris was the D candidate and not Biden on election day.
I understand the result was disappointing but unless there's some hard evidence of tampering, I'm not inclined to believe the election was tampered with.
It presents enough to warrant further investigation, as recommended at the end of the article, I reckon.
I don’t know why the SMART guys don’t work together with the https://electiontruthalliance.org/ guys…