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Defense secretary’s memo says stripping the name of the Navy veteran is part of an effort to reestablish ‘warrior culture’

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[–] A_Union_of_Kobolds@lemmy.world 85 points 5 days ago

Fascist culture

[–] Initiateofthevoid@lemmy.dbzer0.com 46 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Not just Harvey Milk. Several other names are on there, like Harriet fucking Tubman.

Harriet Tubman was more of a warrior than he could ever be.

Hegseth is a news anchor who literally commisioned his personal lawyer as a Navy Officer. He wouldn't know what a warrior looked like if one punched him in the face for being a christofascist fuck. He wrote a book called American Crusade and is ripping down Harvey Milk's name specifically during Pride Month, quote, "on purpose."

Remember, everyone. It was never about transgender athletes, it was never going to stop with oppressing transgender people, it was always complete and utter bigotry and fascism all the way down.

[–] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

Didn't he have a make-up studio added to the Pentagon? He's a wannabe drag queen just like his boss.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 56 points 5 days ago (1 children)

We don't want a warrior culture. That's dumb fashy shit. We want a culture where every time soldiers are sent to war, it's seen as a failure of leadership that it got to this point.

[–] Alloi@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago (1 children)

literally one of the biggest components of sun tzus art of war is exactly that.

"the supreme art of war is to subdue your enemy without fighting"

essentially, if you have an enemy, and can work things out democratically, or in other non violent ways, then you win. if you cannot do that, you have failed, and have to wage a traditional war, which is costly to both sides. and thus should be avoided.

[–] nova_ad_vitum@lemmy.ca 6 points 4 days ago

Asimov also had this concept baked into the foundation series. "Violence is the last refuge of the incompetent".

[–] Kirp123@lemmy.world 42 points 5 days ago (1 children)

These people wouldn't know what warrior culture is if it came in and punched them in the face. Ancient Greeks hoplites were gay as shit and they were some of the finest warriors in the world.

Homosexuality in the militaries of ancient Greece was a significant aspect across the ancient Greek city-states, ranging from being a core part of military life to being an accepted practice of some individual soldiers. It was regarded as contributing to morale. Although the primary example is the Sacred Band of Thebes, a unit said to have been formed of same-sex couples, the Spartan tradition of military heroism has also been explained in light of strong emotional bonds resulting from homosexual relationships. Various ancient Greek sources record incidents of courage in battle and interpret them as motivated by homoerotic bonds.

[–] Snowclone@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

The Spartans also missed like two wars because they landed on easy to predict holidays that perverted them from being there in time, so they tended to over sell the times they did make it to war.

[–] NOT_RICK@lemmy.world 38 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Too bad his name wasn’t Harvey Whiskey. There’d be no shot of having it renamed by Pete in that case.

[–] Eldritch@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] shutz@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] radiofreebc@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Maybe Harvey Weinstein.

[–] klu9@lemmy.ca 4 points 4 days ago

Or tell him that if you combine into one fleet the USS Harvey Milk, the USS Morgan Rum and the USS Runny Yolk, you get eggnog!

[–] andyburke@fedia.io 25 points 4 days ago

This dude is hopelessly fucking stupid.

The very nature of warfare is changing at an unbelievable rate (supply chain attacks, drones manufactured in theater, just to name a couple) and this guy is fucking obsessed with transgender and gay people.

If you're conservative and you voted for these guys, and you give any kind of shit about America, you need to start yelling at your reps about this bullshit to get someone with at least some baseline fucking competency in there.

I didn't vote for this bullshit. My city didn't. My state didn't. Y'all in the red states need to step up.

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 18 points 4 days ago
[–] loopedcandle@lemmynsfw.com 21 points 4 days ago

Renaming a ship is really bad luck, IIRC. And sailors are hilariously superstitious. So if they rename it after some conservative anti-gay asshat (narrator: they will) that the ship is going to be the most despised ship in the fleet.

[–] Hobbes_Dent@lemmy.world 26 points 5 days ago (2 children)

America is a fascist, racist, homophobic, bully, anti-intelligence culture.

Sacrifice your neighbours at the altar of prosperity in pursuit of the holy me.

[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Except that its less than 1/3 of us that feel that way. Its a big shit sandwich and we all have to take a bite here.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] snausagesinablanket@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

|Fix your democracy then

LMAO

I'll get 3 of my best guys on it immediately.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

That's how It starts 👍

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 5 days ago

There's some pretty good restaurants tho.

[–] andybytes@programming.dev 4 points 3 days ago

Fuck these d bags

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 4 points 3 days ago

That's just fucking petty.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 13 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The thing is, Drinky Pete, we can't go back to live in the 1950s. We already don't live there because of the whole forward-motion thing of time, and so going back isn't going to work.

So maybe work a little harder to drink yourself to death.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Maybe if we all ship him a bottle...

[–] DeathsEmbrace@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago

Just wait until they see the “warriors” in history.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Yea but I also have a job, and a wife and dog that would suffer if I martyred myself, even if I only wound up in prison. I think a lot of people look at the situation and see the same hopelessness, and can only hope for it not to get worse, because chances are if we do nothing, we won't lose everything, but not the same if we do choose to do something.

"First they came for the..."

I agree, but I don't have a better answer. I empathize like hell with my queer friends, I understand the fear, but what am I going to accomplish alone with a rifle and how likely is it that a legitimate militia could be established before being wiped out, and how would it even be organized?

I think it has to start with the military. I think if a large enough chunk of soldiers and materiel defected, enough for a fighting chance, that civilians would join in droves. But I don't really know, that's just what I've come to think.

[–] FreakinSteve@lemmy.world 1 points 3 days ago

Dont take on an army Hunt the MAGA pastor, the christofascist YT host, the local TikToc fascist influencer. Know where all the cops live. The US military is too big for lone wolves and can't do anything about guerillas.

[–] cosmicrookie@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago

They seem to be spending a whole lot of energy on stuff that really isn't practically important

[–] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 6 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Why aren't they saying whose name is going in its place?

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Because they aren't announcing it until june 13.

The renaming of the ship was set to become public on June 13, the memo said. While a new name for the Milk has not been announced, the memo said Hegseth and Phelan are set to make the announcement aboard the oldest commissioned ship in the Navy, the USS Constitution.

[–] dunidane@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Sad to see the constitution used to spread such hate. But I guess her namesake has gotten the same treatment forever.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It’s a warship. Literally built to spread hate.

[–] DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social 3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Anything built to fight the British Empire is based as shit... At least before 1930.

[–] ohulancutash@feddit.uk 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Constitution was built to fight pirates and the Fr*nch.

[–] dunidane@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 4 days ago

That was her first duties but when the original 6 frigates were built the British were the enemy on everyone's mind. Thats why they were so heavy gunned for frigates of their day. They could only budget for 6 and knew they would have to duke it out with the Royal Navy.

[–] 7empest@beehaw.org 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

It's gonna be the USS Taco isn't it..

[–] taco@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago
[–] klu9@lemmy.ca 5 points 4 days ago

"Warrior culture - it's turned out so well for the Russian military, let's do it to ours!"

[–] Worx@lemmynsfw.com 5 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I know it's dumb, and it's not the point, and fascists don't care what they're saying as long as they get their way but part of me still needs to answer this

liking other men doesn't impact your ability to do violence. Gay people can also be violent. You know that right, you stupid piece of fascist shit?

[–] Zannsolo@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago

Liking men is extra manly. Guys the movie 300 about, loved fucking other dudes.

[–] lividweasel@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago

“Warrior culture” on the fuel tanker crewed mainly by civilians

[–] paddythegeek@lemmy.ca 3 points 4 days ago

What a bunch of bullshit.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 1 points 4 days ago

Loser culture.