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[–] RageAgainstTheRich@lemmy.world 55 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Isn't it amazing when text is also not selectable? Like its rendered behind some other shit?

I fucking hate websites ❤️

[–] Mustakrakish@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Or when you try and select a letter and it auto selects the whole fucking work or sentence, jumping all over the place?

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[–] piecat@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

The reddit mobile app has broken text selection. I did same thing as OP but with my stylus.

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[–] LucidNightmare@lemm.ee 39 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (8 children)

My absolute biggest gripe about the failings of proper UI design is icons with no text attached.

Floppy, okay surely the save button. Some book looking thing, no fucking clue. An eye in the middle of a square, what the fuck are you people doing???

Having to hover over a weird looking icon to MAYBE gleam some sort of information on it takes so much longer than just having the fucking text below the God damn icon. Sometimes they don’t even have hover text! Thats GREAT UI skills there, Junior! Maybe you’ll get there eventually!

Fucking idiots.

[–] ne0phyte@feddit.org 12 points 6 days ago

Massive +1. I can easily imagine complex 3D shapes in my head and freely manipulate them, but my brain works horrible when it comes to icons for some reason. I can't intuitively find what I need, not even after months or years. Even after using something for a long time I will constantly hover over all icons to read the tooltips until I find what I need.

The software I work on at work has a navigation at the top of just icons. I see it every day and I just can't seem to associate the icons with the functionality.

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[–] boolean_sledgehammer@lemmy.world 25 points 6 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (7 children)

UI designer/developer here. One who works on features that facilitate reading.

Based on their writing style and the text highlighting habit, this person is likely dyslexic. I've helped create functions that facilitate this behavior, which is better suited as a mode that can be enabled manually. There are browser extensions that can do this sort of thing for you. I've worked on a lot of assistive reading features.

If this was set as a default behavior, most users would fucking riot. Most of them are using text highlighting for what this person doesn't want to do.

Edit - I think I need to emphasize that this is based on real data. A shit ton of it. These decisions aren't made based on vibes. If the user base is performing a specific action repeatedly, we're going to facilitate it. We can see what you all are doing. UI's aren't built around a bunch of conflicting edge cases based on anecdotes. If something performs a certain way, at least major applications, it's usually because a lot of direct observations and metrics have strongly indicated that this is the preferred approach.

Admittedly, sometimes business goals get in the way of that. But if those business goals we have to push get in the way of conversions, they get abandoned pretty quickly.

[–] MisterFrog@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

(Apologies for my tone below, but this affects me also, and I dislike the notion that messing with how you normally select text is a niche desire)

We don't need any new functionality or a custom mode, we just want unexpected popups to not get in the way of expected behaviour when selecting text.

As long as your options appear well above the text, and doesn't cancel the highlighting, I can't accept whatever you want to do. But as the OP writes, if it's easy to misclick, this is bad UI design because it does not conform to the expectation that nothing will pop up. (Google Docs is the first example that comes to mind as implementing popup options totally fine, from recollection)

If it's too close to the selected text and causes misclicks, then I'm gonna be annoyed about this since the vast, vast majority (luckily) of text on the internet you can highlight to your heart's content and nothing pops up.

Just keep options decently above the highlighted text (I dunno what the right number is, 2 lines above the start of your selection? hey I'm not a UI designer)

In conclusion, change is okay, but intuition is important.

Tantacrul makes some great UI videos if you haven't seen them before (not that I'm telling you how to suck eggs about your own profession, he's just genuinely funny and interesting to watch)

[–] pyre@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

lots of people do it, not just people with dyslexia. it helps keep track of where you are when there are large blocks of text. also it usually raises contrast so I'm sure that helps some people even more.

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[–] wieson@feddit.org 7 points 5 days ago

I disagree.

The mode for options is called the right mouse button and the mode for just highlighting is the left mouse button. One of the great pillars of UI design is conforming to expectations.

[–] CrazyLikeGollum@lemmy.world 4 points 5 days ago

UI user here.

A good rule of thumb for interfaces is "one action, one function." Highlighting text and opening a context menu are two separate functions that should require separate actions (at least as default behavior, user configurability is also a good thing). If I highlight text, the only thing that should indicate is that I want the text highlighted. If I subsequently want a context menu, I will do the context menu action (right click, long press, etc). A UI should never be trying to predict what I want and it absolutely should not be doing things that I didn't explicitly direct.

You need sane defaults and having what is effectively a predefined macro is not a sane default.

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[–] tiredofsametab@fedia.io 25 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Come to Japan where they like to make everything images instead. Can't select it, can't copy it, can't translate it without a camera, can't preview the text of something, is bad for accessibility, etc.

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[–] kamen@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

Hard agree. I'm not dyslexic, but I also occasionally mark text to keep progress, especially if it's a long piece. And if I really want to copy that text, I will, sometimes just out of spite that you're trying to outsmart me, and I'm more likely to leave your site sooner too.

Also, while we're at it, can you please leave scrolling behaviour alone and not override it? I have a nice mouse that lets me scroll as fast or as slow as I want to. In some rare cases with a fancy UI where one wheel notch scrolls a whole page I agree that overriding the behaviour is warranted. In all other cases just FUCKING LEAVE SCROLLING AS IS (as handled by the OS and the browser) and don't try to be fancy; if you try to be fancy for no particular reason, I'm more likely to leave your site ASAP rather than prefer it over other sites.

[–] NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone 14 points 6 days ago

I do this. It’s just a stimming thing while reading web articles and I hate being sent to Twitter or whatever for it.

[–] akademy@lemm.ee 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Totally do this. Thought it was just me.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I do this because I do work on my computer and sometimes that work involves citing sources, copying and pasting sections of instructions, ensuring I'm using correct spelling of foreign names and words. And most importantly, copying and pasting wingdings and symbols that I can't be bothered to memorize the numkey codes for. ™ 🄮℠

I HATE UNSELECTABLE TEXT WITH A BURNING PASSION (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

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[–] OCATMBBL@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Teams is the worst offender. It constantly wants me to call any number. Social? Phone? Whatever. I don't want to call anyone, and I sure as hell don't want to do it via Teams.

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[–] anas@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

We went from using no punctuation to using too much. I struggled while reading this.

[–] Hobo@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The no capitalization makes it hard for me. I think just re-writing with capitalization makes it a lot easier to read:

Note to UI designers. When reading a long piece of text. I select the text while I read it. I select the text while I read it!. I select the text using my mouse. While I read the text I often select the text. I don't want to perform actions on the text. I don't want to accidentally click share link. I want to select the text while I read it.

Here's how I would mildly edit the punctuation in order to make it easier to read:

Note to UI designers; when reading a long piece of text, I select the text while I read it. I select the text while I read it! I select the text using my mouse. While I read the text, I often select the text. I don't want to perform actions on the text. I don't want to accidentally click share link. I want to select the text while I read it.

Here's how I would have conveyed the thought in a JIRA comment:

UI designers could you please, for the love of all mankind, stop fucking putting fucking shitty ass popups in the god damn non-mobile website! There is no one, and I mean no-fucking-body, that is still using a desktop computer in 2025 that does not know about ctrl-c and ctrl-v. There is not sane reason for you to ever assume a user wants to visit some shitty twitter/reddit/digg/blog when they select text on a desktop computer. If I see a single one of you motherfuckers putting fucking text inside an action I swear to god I will come down there and beat you to death with your own fucking keyboard.

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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago (2 children)
[–] Liz@midwest.social 15 points 6 days ago (2 children)

I do not want the program to react when I left click ordinary text. The program should not anticipate my needs. It should wait until I've told it I need something (with a right click) before doing anything.

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[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 11 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Nonsense. AI adds rich features like these that no one wanted so VCs can become rich. The only thing missing on modern computers is blindingly-bright nuclear explosion white LEDs that shine directly into your optic nerve, all the time.

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[–] GreenKnight23@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago

I have a protocol for this.

  1. go to website
  2. if UX is offensive exit website
  3. add website to pihole blacklist and description of why
  4. never visit website again

I know it doesn't mean much to them, but I refuse to accept a shitty online experience when a product team actively circumvents standard internet experiences like highlighting, copy/paste, or browser jacking (looking at you Microsoft).

For PC, extra functions should be in the context menu in my opinion. For mobile, that's a little tougher, but maybe tapping on the selected text should bring up the options? Selecting on mobile is a tough thing anyway, and any solution is probably going to be a problem for someone else.

Actually, that's probably true for any UI design choices. There are some that are generally a good idea (like defining a reasonable navigation order for your elements or making design respond to viewport sizes to ensure that everything actually fits), but interaction options can get really muddy.

[–] ne0phyte@feddit.org 9 points 6 days ago

I do it, too. I rarely read any text without subconsciously marking the text while reading it. Might be a tool for me (ADHD) to make it easier not to lose track - I don't know.

But regardless of why people do it and while I agree that it's probably something very specific not a lot of users do, I refuse to believe that anyone actually uses those select->popup-> share features, ever. Often the little pop-up even blocks the text above it which is just insanely bad UX imo.

Sites should never mess with core functionality without asking (scrolling, selection, tab/keyboard navigation, hijacking common shortcuts/right click, clipboard, history, etc).

I believe someone came up with that idea a decade+ ago and people just want it on their site to add value without actually checking if anyone uses it.

[–] myotheraccount@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

I hear you! It sounds like you want user-select: none on all text, because you want the site to feel more like a real newspaper, and having too many features like text selection is distracting you.

[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 3 points 5 days ago

Also please stop using light colored text on light colored backgrounds, it's a stupid idea. Thanks for your attention.

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