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As Ukrainian POWs die in Russian prisons, autopsies point to a system of brutality (apnews.com)

submitted 8 months ago by PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat to c/world@quokk.au

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[–] mutual_ayed@sh.itjust.works 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

I'm honestly surprised they're releasing the bodies tbh.

[–] Lodespawn@aussie.zone 1 points 8 months ago

Either they are messed up enough themselves that they don't realise what they are doing is fucked up, or they are completely aware and fear no retribution.

[–] OutForARip@lemmy.ca 4 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago)

I hope I get to live for a day when justice can come for all these people. Let their crimes be judged and sentenced.

Until that day, I hope Ukraine kills as many of them as it can.

[+] andybytes@programming.dev -7 points 8 months ago (1 children)

It is pretty bad on both sides.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

Man, go fuck yourself.

[+] malin@thelemmy.club -9 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

How dare he share the truth?

You're doing your part to support propaganda and hysteria.

I guarantee you, on Russian forums people will say the same response to anyone pointing out Russian atrocities.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

lol it’s not the truth

[+] malin@thelemmy.club -6 points 8 months ago (1 children)

How do you know?

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 2 points 8 months ago* (last edited 8 months ago) (1 children)

Because I read all kinds of news, and have conversations with all kinds of people with all kinds of viewpoints, and I’ve come to recognize the very strong concordance that exists between on the one hand “it’s all the West’s fault anyway / Ukraine’s just as bad if not worse when it comes to (whatever we are talking about)”, and then combined with that on the other hand a general pattern of lying, bad-faith argument, awful sources, or just vanishing like a fart in the wind whenever someone challenges their viewpoint.

Also, how do you know that it’s just as bad on the Ukrainian side? For one thing, they didn’t start the fucking war, so who would care what they do to invading soldiers who have no business being there anyway. But even regardless of that, they have nothing approaching the level of Russian brutality towards POWs and random civilian prisoners. Some details are in the OP article. Why are you claiming that they do?

[–] malin@thelemmy.club -4 points 8 months ago (1 children)

He said it's "pretty bad" not "just as bad."

It is pretty bad in Ukraine.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 1 points 8 months ago

Like I said: Vanishing like a fart in the wind. Making vague repetitions of the broad strokes of your argument and pretending that addresses anything I was saying is another variety of that.

This user has been banned now (not by me, by their home instance I guess for some sort of bad faith bullshit somewhere, I don’t really know), so I guess it is a moot point now.