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I made a blog post on my biggest issue in Lemmy and the proposed solutions for it. Any thoughts on this would be appreciated.

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[–] HAL_9_TRILLION@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think Lemmy needs to work on the basics first. I made a post on a .world community from a .dbzer0 account and it got several upvotes and comments. When I look at it from the account I posted it with, it has 0 upvotes and 0 comments.

[–] Blaze@discuss.online 1 points 2 years ago

Should be fixed by now with version 19.2 and 19.3

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I appreciate the effort, but what is happening is option 1, aka merging of communities, naturally.

About knowing where to post, you can usually have a look at https://lemmyverse.net/communities, search the community name, and have a good idea of which one is the most active.

Sometimes different communities can coexist, and that's fine. !science@mander.xyz and !science@lemmy.world have different audiences, and that's okay.

[–] popcar2@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

I'm aware that people are slowly grouping up to one specific community per topic but I don't think this means there isn't an issue with communities being fractured. Using a third party tool to gauge which communities are popular also isn't a great solution. Just searching Linux shows:

I don't think each one of these communities has a different audience. It's the same audience, but there isn't an obvious answer for which one to visit or post in.

[–] Landsharkgun@midwest.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

As someone used to Old Internet: how is having multiple communities for similar topics a 'problem'? If you like Overwatch, do you demand that Activision, Steam, and GameFAQs all combine their forums about it? If you like baking, do you demand that all of the hundreds of sites dedicated to it all blob into one? This seems like a very wierd idea to be so definite about.

[–] Blaze@discuss.online 1 points 2 years ago

People are pushing for it because they see the amount of people here as a finite number that shouldn't be spread too thin.

I'm more on the side advocating to get more people here so that we don't worry about how many communities we have on the same topic

[–] ombremad@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not a problem. It's a great feature. Because there's more and more servers enforcing a lazy moderation system and spreading a lot of hate out there. And sure, you're free to do so. But I'm also free to rely on servers that actually protect their users, and they have a right to exist as well.

It's always baffling to me how people go to great lengths trying to describe the utter freedom of the Fediverse (and decentralized networks as a whole) as something flawed and bad, because they're brainless and they just think of Lemmy as "the new Reddit" (or Mastodon as "the new Twitter").

[–] vonbaronhans@midwest.social 1 points 2 years ago

To be fair, Lemmy is my reddit replacement.

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I personally don't think this is a huge issue, but it is an issue. I usually pick the biggest community on a topic, or if there are multiple that are fairly active, subscribe to both/all. The only real complaint I have about it is that users will often make the same post to both communities, so I see duplicate posts on my timeline and the discussion is split in half.

I do think it would be nice if there was a way for community mods to choose to combine two communities across instances, in a way that they would appear as a single community to users. I don't know how that would be implemented though.

[–] Blaze@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I do think it would be nice if there was a way for community mods to choose to combine two communities across instances,

If they are willing to cooperate that far, they could as well merge the communities

[–] pruwybn@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 2 years ago

That's true. I guess I like the idea of being able to distribute a community across servers, but it may be more trouble than it's worth to implement.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 2 years ago

And then the users who were in the moved-from server but are defederated from the moved-to server get automatically banne d/ blocked from it.

Thanks but no thanks. Sharing is the solution, not merging. Merging is the solution that corporate sells for every problem.

[–] lambalicious@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 2 years ago

I've already went on on why merging communities is Bad for the Fediverse (and only really helps the big corpos that get into the Fediverse), so it's good that the badness of that "solution" is acknowledged.

As for #2: multicommunities: I seem to recall Kbin already does that, so it should work. As for sub-issue 1, "To create a multi-community, you would have to know where each community is and add it to your list. ", well that's what webrings are for! Let's bring them back from the '90s. Basically get's give the power of "static search" back to the users.

Numero 3 Electric Boogaloo: Making communities follow communities, is not much of a bad idea, but I'm wary fo the issues already mentioned in it. I'm mostly concerned also about it making it harder to maintain smaller Lemmy instances due to the extra communication overhead.

[–] Kethal@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

The real problem is how do we centralize all communities. I mean, there's a Linux community on lemmy.world, but also Linux Web sites, forums, chat rooms, people on Twitter that post about Linux. Sometimes people talk about Linux in emails, or text messages. They're probably having in person conversations about Linux. This fragmentation is ruining things.

[–] zecg@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No. We tried having it centralized and it sucks.

[–] popcar2@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

You didn't read the post. The suggestion is to make the platform more decentralized not centralized. I'm not even going to reply to most comments in this thread that also, clearly, did not read the post and is making stuff up.