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[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 43 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

Wellllllllll

It actually wasn't, but someone claimed it was, and would sue people who used it. Most would settle and agree not to use it. This is also why most chain restaurants had their own alternative birthday songs.

It was only that in 2016 somebody actually said to them "prove it" and took them to court, which found their copyright claim to be without merit.

Incidentally, there is no penalty for this.

[–] Notyou@sopuli.xyz 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Is that what happened? I knew there was some court copyright thing about the song that changed around then. I had no idea it was just someone claiming they owned it and got called out. πŸ˜‚

Some restaurants started singing the normal Happy Birthday song and I kinda miss those corny restaurant ones.

[–] scutiger@lemmy.world 15 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

What day is today?
It's Nibbler's birthday!
What a day for a birthday.
Let's all have some cake!

And you smell like one too!

[–] gnuplusmatt@reddthat.com 5 points 12 hours ago

that Futurama DVD commentary is where I learnt that Happy Birthday was Copyrighted

[–] Bishma@discuss.tchncs.de 64 points 23 hours ago (2 children)

There was a long running TV Trope caused by shows not wanting to license happy birthday.

[–] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 29 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

Scene starts

🎢 tooo yooouuu! 🎢

I never would have thought this is a legit way of circumventing copyright. Holy shit.

Obligatory Community clip

[–] SatyrSack@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 21 hours ago

30 Rock did it the other way around while also poking fun at the trope itself

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MymL4feJOhs

[–] cyrano@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 23 hours ago

Crazy ! I didn’t know that

[–] dickalan@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 49 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Which was obviously bullshit (that they were given a copyright). The 2016 date is how long it took for some group to take the time and effort to get it thrown out finally.

[–] CosmicTurtle0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

So it's a bit more complicated than that.

I believe it was Warner Brothers who held the copyright but it had been disputed whether they actually owned the rights. But it's one of those situations where taking them to court to find out was going to cost a lot more than paying the license.

WB didn't have to prove they owned it to get people to pay. They only needed to show that they held the copyright to it and the history of other people paying did the rest. Sort of like paying protection to a local mob.

So when WB finally got sued and they had to show receipts, the judge decided against them and we got something in the public domain.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 19 hours ago (2 children)
[–] Slovene@feddit.nl 4 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I don't feel like reading atm, can I get a link to a LegalEagle vid about it?

[–] ssfckdt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 16 hours ago

the very idea of a regular birthday party wasn’t really widespread before the era

Can we go back to that? I hate birthdays.

[–] KittenBiscuits@lemm.ee 13 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

I always thought this is why Olive Garden, Red Lobster, whatever 80s/90s fad chain restaurant sang their own birthday songs for patrons.

Happy happy birthday.. It’s your special day.. happy happy birthday That’s why we’re here to say HEY! Happy happy birthday may alll your dreams come true happy happy birthday from Bennigans to you..HEY!

[–] qjkxbmwvz@startrek.website 4 points 19 hours ago

That's what I heard about Chevy's, too.

[–] SharkEatingBreakfast@sopuli.xyz 9 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I remember a bunch of YoutΓ—be videos being taken down due to people singing it. So stupid..

[–] Sidyctism2@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 2 hours ago

i cant fathom why you would censor "youtube" nor why you would use a special character for that purpose.
i am intrigued.
subscribed.

[–] ExtantHuman@lemm.ee 5 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Wow, it hit public domain THAT long ago?

[–] Fredselfish@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago

Actually it hit public domain way before that, but it went to court in 2016. I remember it was pretty big fucking deal. Because it was public domain in freaking 90's. Whoever held copyright never updated it, yet no one was aware of it until someone went to court to challenge the copyright.

[–] FinalRemix@lemmy.world 5 points 19 hours ago

Happy Birthday Lisa is better anyway.

[–] thesohoriots@lemmy.world 4 points 21 hours ago

Stevie Wonder version is superior anyways

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 3 points 23 hours ago

Aaron Sorkin's criminally-underappreciated "Sports Night" had a subplot about this.

Am I the only one that kinda hates birthday songs?

Can we start a tradition where we write poems as preparation for the birthday then read it in place of the birthday song?

(Also please do not blow on the cake, so much saliva and germs. I didn't eat the cake at the last birthday celebration I attended to because I was kinda germaphobic. Oh well, I hope others enjoyed it πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ)