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this post was submitted on 19 May 2025
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Did they train something on an actors voice, or use the actors voice recordings without contractual permission?
OR:
Did they use an AI voice and some filters to make the character talk without hiring an actor?
Because if it's the second, who cares? If it's the first, they should be raked over the coals.
They had permission to use an AI trained on James Earl Jones's Darth Vader voice granted by his estate, SAG is pissed they used it instead of hiring someone to imitate it.
If JEJ granted voice rights, then that's peachy. Nobody owes someone else that job. Sounds like JEJ locked it down.
The idea that actors are required to be hired is kind of nonsense. Every industry has had to deal with less people required to produce the same amount of output. At this point, JEJ voice of Darth Vader IS Darth Vader. I can understand the studio wanting to retain that. Replacing voice actors is often jarring for the viewer.
Yeah replacing voice actors is super annoying. Everytime i rewatch atla and we get to the final season it bothers me. they had to replace iroh's voice actor it sounds so bad and forced.
The idea that actors are required to be hired is kind of nonsense.
They aren't required to hire actors, but in this case they had a contractual agreement with the union to negotiate before doing this.
Also, the logical conclusion to this trend is to do away with all actors since sooner or later, AI will just be able to create characters out of thin air and then why pay anybody? I'd personally rather there be some restrictions on it.
I hope his estate gets kickbacks from his likeness being used.
I had chosen that source just for the best headline for the meme, but turns out it also had a succinct answer to your question. Jones’ estate consented but SAG claims the way Epic went about implementing it violates contracts between Epic and SAG.
With the video game industry's history of unfair labor practices, the burden of proof for credibility that this did not violate contract is on Epic.