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Lemmy.world seems to have banned the largest piracy community on Lemmy. (lemmy.dbzer0.com)
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This has happened once before and they reversed it. But they said this last time too:

The discussions that have happened in various threads on Lemmy make it very clear that removing the communites before we announced our intent to remove them is not the level of transparency the community expects, and that as stewards of this community we need to be extremely transparent before we do this again in the future as well as make sure that we get feedback around what the planned changes are, because lemmy.world is yours as much as it is ours.

https://lemmy.world/post/3234363

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

Lemmy world:

Users, not even on Lemmy World or directly affected by this:

Pissed Pikachu with torch and pitchfork

I'm not in the loop or even involved with LW's admin affairs, but I would imagine there was a letter or email to them or their service provider that prompted that and likely named those communities specifically. Going out on a limb, I would guess the community removal was a timely response to something like that, and based on LW's history, an announcement will probably be coming soon-ish.

Before you grab your torches and pitchforks, remember: Pretty much every Lemmy instance is run by volunteers that don't have legal departments.

[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

"The cloud is just other people's computers" - It's inconvenient, but those computers are real, physical objects subject to oversight from real, physical law enforcement.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Evidence No. 3783 that "social media" and "privacy" do not mix well together.

Let me repeat one more time:

  • anything you write online should be considered public.
  • There is no "consent-based" fediverse.
  • There is no "GDPR protects me from that".
  • There is no "security through obscurity".
  • There is no "dark corner of the internet".

No matter your morals and ethical values, If you need to have any type of conversation that you think might get you in legal trouble, do not have this conversation in a public forum. Use #matrix if you have to, and even then you'd still need to worry large group chats which may have some undercover agent.

And if you are really concerned about "censorship", then ActivityPub is not for you. Go join forces with the bitcoiners and use #nostr.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

PSA: Lemmy.ml has a piracy community and federates with everyone world federates with so you can have the same experience.

[–] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

and federates with everyone world federates with

Not entirely true, I discovered the other day, while helping someone figure out why they couldn't access .ml communities, that .ml blocks furry instances...

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Edit: https://lemmy.ml/instances includes Pawb.social and pawb.fun, they're also federated with instances that host furry communities.

Which furry instances are you talking about?

[–] imaqtpie@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yiffit.net, ani.social, and lemmynsfw.com. Those are the main defederations that I think are a little harsh.

Aside from those, most of the other blocked instances are pretty egregious (mostly pedophilia and alt-right) and SJW has blocked many of the same ones.

The only major server with less defederation is Lemm.ee.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemm.ee is pretty sweet and well run. Ml and ee are superior to world IMHO.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemme.ee is great, lemmy.ml is toxic.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Never seen evidence of that...

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm sure you haven't.

[–] CrypticCoffee@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Care to explain...

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago

Will you just ignore what I say and attack me with a strawman argument? That's typically what I get for actually talking to lemmy.ml users. Not interested in wasting my time.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Lemmy.ml is also one of the worst offenders spreading authoritarian propaganda for the CCP and Kremlin. I hate Lemmy.ml

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I just searched "china", and didn't notice any authoritarian propaganda in the first 3 pages, but I counted 6 anti-chinese stories.

The closest to pro-chinese stories that came up were that EU citizens can now travel to China visa-free, the CEO of evergrande getting fined and banned from business, and some news story about economic numbers.

Would you care to point it out to me?

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Propaganda isn't obvious like that, and the core of most propaganda is truthful. Generally speaking you need to look at the big picture and what key actors want to be able to see probable propaganda.

They'll never say "the CCP is great and Taiwanese people don't deserve freedom," but they undermine people who would defend Taiwan and help shape things so an attack is more likely to succeed (e.g., supporting the Kremlin's attack on Ukrainians).

Not really interested in discussing it more with a Lemmy.ml user. I've seen too much bad faith engagement and don't want to waste my time. Apologies if you're actually sincere.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I think I see the disconnect, you conflate the safety of the state of Taiwan and Ukraine with the people so statements like "I don't think we should sacrifice a million Ukrainians to weaken Russia" come off as undermining the defense of Ukraine.

I'm certain even the pro-independence people living in Taiwan would prefer status quo to looking like Ukraine.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

you conflate the safety of the state of Taiwan and Ukraine with the people

I don't understand what you're trying to say

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A state and it's people's interests aren't the same.

Take self-determination movements; the people in eastern Ukraine want to leave, the state of Ukraine doesn't want to give up territory.

Supporting the state in this case is opposing the people, supporting the people is opposing the state.

If I was in Russia, I'd have pointed at Syrian Kurdistan before the US invasion/occupation of Syria.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That was in 2014, there wasn't even a coherent Ukrainian state and they were going through new presidents every month. A lot changed over the next 10 years. Western Ukraine was shelling Eastern Ukraine right up until the day of the invasion.

[–] AtmaJnana@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Gotta love tankies unironically parroting Putin's disinformation.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago

Are you suggesting Putin controlled CNN and Al Jazeera English 10 years ago?

Because I'm just recounting what I saw on the news.

[–] AtmaJnana@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

its pretty clear. You're conversing with a tankie.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago (2 children)

My guess is it's actually an LLM.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Surely anyone who isn't just begging for rivers of foreign blood must be a robot. Just inconceivable that anyone could want less bloodshed.

[–] awwwyissss@lemm.ee -1 points 2 years ago

Why engage with someone who uses a complete hyperbolic strawman like this

[–] AtmaJnana@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

How am I to tell who is a tankie, vs a wumao, vs a Russian bot troll? It can be hard to tell who is commenting in good faith.

I'm kidding, of course. I just block them all. No one using these talking points is worth my time.