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The appliance that elicits anger and frustrated at it's mere sight. The treacherous device that never worked right.

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[–] [email protected] 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

The Oatmeal is correct, the answer is printers

And by extension, scanners

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

It used to be printers but I switched to a Brother laser printer about five years ago and its been trouble free while having reasonable print costs. You can even force it to print on empty for a bit longer, although you shouldn't push any laser printer too far on empty as you can wreck them.

Toasters are my big gripe. Its been proven that they have massively reduced costs at the expense of longevity and toasting efficiency from what we had decades ago. I have an expensive toaster (from Sage), and I have still had to replace micro switches on the buttons. While it does a better job of even browning than a cheap toaster its still far from the level I expect.

I would buy one of those expensive Japanese toasters or a commercial toaster oven but I do not want that much counter top taken up by it. I would rather just cook my toast in a cast iron pan now, far better finish.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Washing machines.

My washing machine 15 years ago would wash my clothes with...uhhhh...fucking water.

Now you can't buy washing machines that actually wash your clothes in water. They all spritz your clothes with a little water then jiggle around your damp clothes for a bit.

I don't live in a desert. I live in a place with access to plenty of water. I should be allowed to buy a washing machine that actually fills up with soapy water and washes my damn clothes.

I could buy a Speed Queen washer for $2,000 from a specialty store, but that's ridiculous. Why can't I just buy a washing machine that washes my clothes? They're ALL terrible now. All the washers in all the big box stores are just...bad.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

That still make toploaders, you know. Even HE ones. Front loading washers only serve to break your back from all the bending over.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (5 children)

Even the toploaders do the same thing now. They don't actually fill with water like they used to. I got frustrated with my modern toploader and that's how I wound up with the highest rated frontloader I could find. Both garbage.

The washing machine I bought in 1996 for $250 cleaned clothes better than any machine I've had in decades.

I just want to wash my clothes. In water.

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[–] [email protected] 130 points 1 day ago (10 children)

Do printers count? I fucking HATE printers.

[–] [email protected] 36 points 1 day ago (1 children)

After some half a century of existing they are somehow still annoying to use.

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[–] [email protected] 83 points 1 day ago (8 children)

"Smart" TVs.

I just want my TV to show pretty pictures with sound thrown at it by the digital receiver. If I want, I can attach a computer for streaming. How is that such a big ask?!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 16 hours ago

I think some commercial TVs might do what you want.

[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 day ago (2 children)

TV's are actually cheaper not because the tech necessarily being more available (even though it should) but instead it's because companies are harvesting your data on smart tv's and selling it making more profit than they would make with just selling you a TV. On a separate but somewhat related note, has anyone else noticed smart phones becoming more expensive as they become more protective of the users privacy?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

as they become more protective of the users privacy?

that was a good joke

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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 day ago (4 children)

I couldn't find a dumb TV, so I got a smart one didn't give it wifi access. Every time I turn it on, it shows me a clock that's wrong and I think "Not so smart now, are you?". It's a perfectly functional dumb TV.

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[–] [email protected] 43 points 1 day ago (8 children)

Printers. There is no excuse for (consumer) printers to be as shitty as they are.

There are reasons, but none of them are excuses: If patent hell wasn't a main obstacle put in place by the large printer manufacturers, I am sure open source hardware alternative would've forced industry improvements ages ago.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 22 hours ago

For me, it's specifically the HP printer my wife has. It has one of those subscription models where you pay per page (or per some unit, I forget) and you can't use it without an account and an internet connection.

I bought a Brother that offers but does not mandate a subscription and tried to get her to use it, but she is convinced the awful disgusting subscription model is easier.

Every time I see it it makes me a little sad and a little mad, but I had her put it on my network that has guest isolation, so it can't touch or spy on any of my other devices and only impacts her.

(My feelings about it aren't quite that strong in reality, but this is a thread about appliance beef. If her printer weren't isolated, I might actually feel pretty strongly about it.)

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

even enterprise grade printers are shitty

And there is a very good reason: Good Mechanical engineers are epxensive, so instead they hire crappy mechanical engineers

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[–] [email protected] 2 points 15 hours ago

Both Costco and Sam's club make these ice cream makers in the wooden buckets. The motors have flimsy PET plastic gears. I get it. Strip out a replaceable gear rather than burn out the wires in a motor, easy easier repair, right? Wrong, I have a nearly identical ice cream maker that's 60 years old, the motor still works great. Metal gears, just gotta oil and maintain it regularly because it gets near salt water and gets splashed occasionally over the decades. The new ones strip out the damn gears after two batches of ice cream.

My solution ended up being to get an ice cream maker with built in refrigerant, but then I needed to get it recharged and that'll cost a much as the machine itself. Thanks a ton, breville. I'm saving up for a professional machine now.

[–] [email protected] 65 points 1 day ago (18 children)

Microwaves are allowed one proud "ding" or three "beep" before they are on my hate-list.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago

And any remaining time on the cooking timer should automatically clear after say 10 minutes. Too many people that love leaving a few seconds remaining when retrieving their food. Then the remaining time stays there forever until someone comes along and clears it.

[–] [email protected] 47 points 1 day ago (9 children)

My microwave has an un-interuptable 6 shrill beeps, that then repeat if the door is not opened in 10 seconds. There is no mute option, and it can be heard everywhere in the house. I have seriously considered just ripping the speaker out of it. It is, without a doubt, the appliance I hate most in my house.

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 19 hours ago

i muted my microwave, almost every microwave i've used has been mutable

[–] [email protected] 7 points 23 hours ago

I have a similar short fuse for microwaves but for the +30 seconds button. If the microwave doesn't have this it should get tossed in the nearest dumpster. The +30 seconds button is the pinnacle of human achievement.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 19 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (2 children)

I really don't get all the shit microwaves and printers get. smart devices especially samsung and xiaomi phones are the worst, from privacy, ownership and control, and maintainability points

edit: fixed a typo. got a stroke when writing...

[–] [email protected] 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

I've never had issues with microwaves

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[–] [email protected] 3 points 16 hours ago

Sounds like you've never had to service a printer, their hate is justified

Same privacy, ownership, and control issues. Had HP remote shut down one of our office printers b/c it detected unauthorized ink. It wasn't unauthorized ink. They didn't care. And it is trivial to hack and duplicate any document that ever gets printed or put to glass

[–] [email protected] 9 points 23 hours ago (4 children)

The fridge. If you close it too hard or too soft, it ends up not closed, but a fingers' width open.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago (2 children)

IIRC a trick you can do is take a heat gun (or failing that a hair dryer) and warm up the magnet gasket border thing. Then close the door and leave it for a bit. Something about it better forming to the correct shape and making a better and more consistent seal.

Couldn't hurt!

[–] [email protected] 2 points 16 hours ago

This works on certain models, I have had success with Samsung and Whirlpool fridges but that's my only experience

[–] [email protected] 0 points 11 hours ago

That's not the issue. It looks like there is a problem with the hinges. And no, oiling didn't help.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Elevate the front a bit and gravity will do.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

Smart idea. I know, because I tried it already. Didn't really work (a slight inclination didn't work, and I didn't want to tile it more).

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[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 day ago (9 children)

Dishwashers

Modern ones have too many features that can break and brick the whole thing and the cheap ones never get good powerful pumps so they spray like shit. Just make a basic mechanical timed dishwasher with a super powerful pump and I will be all in.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If it needs an app or internet connectivity - it can go fuck itself.

We've gone nearly a century of appliances that didn't need this shit. Apps or the Internet itself will not and never will, make things easier to do tasks than they already were easier to do before.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (6 children)

My apartment gym has a Nordictrack treadmill that I hate nearly every aspect of. First of all, it requires you login to use any of the programs, which doesn't really work with 200 potential users. It has lost internet every single time I've used it and needs a restart, even though I use manual mode, the UI buttons are tiny and impossible to read while you're running, and don't respond correctly, and worst of all, there's no goddamn place to put your phone so you can watch Netflix.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago

You lost me at “login” on a treadmill lmao.

Treadmills are already pretty niche considering walking/running is free.

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[–] [email protected] 28 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I encountered a gas stove that wouldn't work during a power outage. It had a valve that shut off the gas if electricity wasn't present. Way to intentionally sabotage one of your biggest advantages.

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