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Labor wins Australian Federal election (www.msn.com)

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Labor has stormed to victory in the federal election and Prime Minister Anthony Albanese will lead a majority government following a disastrous night for the Coalition and Peter Dutton.

At 8.24pm, less than half an hour after the final polls closed in Western Australia, 9News projected Labor had won the election.

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago

The players are picking their starting teams for ww3

[–] [email protected] 98 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

This isnt just a win for Labor, this is a historic landslide after the already historic landslide in 2022. The Liberals could hold as few as 40/150 seats in the house after today, and Labor as many as 90. This could be their greatest victory since the Second World War, and the Liberals (who, to clarify, are conservative) smallest representation since their formation. There was something like a 5% swing away from the Liberals. Likewise, this result appears to have elected the most independents to parliament in decades.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Lets point out that its not even the liberals, its a liberal national coalition. The liberal primary vote is in third party territory. Even if you add the libs and nats they have about half the seats of labor. This ass kicking is historical.

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[–] [email protected] 77 points 1 week ago (6 children)

Trump is turning the world to the left.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 6 days ago

There is no left in Canada. I'm not sure what you mean. Maybe trump is turning the world centrist is more apt of a statement. As far as I know, the labour party in Australia is more centrist than left leaning. Also, half of Canada voted for the right-wing guy, and the next election will be close again.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

It's not really left though, it's just sightly less right. More maintaining status quo instead of taking a big step right. Which I guess by comparison is left?

Our (Australia's) progress parties like The Greens actually lost a lot of seats.

I feel people just didn't want the Conservative party more so than wanted a progressive party. But I'll take it.

[–] [email protected] 38 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (7 children)

People need to see fascism in action in other countries to be reminded of what it is, too bad that it had to be the US, last time it was Germany.

Too bad voters can't live in a simulation showing the consequences of their vote before they do so, that way it wouldn't be necessary to stumble and waste resources/progress that we're going to need in the future.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

They'd call "Fake Sims" before lunchtime on the first day.

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[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 week ago (4 children)

I can finally have a couple months off from stressing over our politics because we reelected the competent side.

[+] [email protected] -9 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (3 children)

Ah yes because the ALP have been so competent the last 3 years, haven’t they? No, they’ve been a complete shitshow.

The LNP are a shitshow too, and Dutton deserved to be nowhere near being prime minister, but let’s not sugar coat it - Labor have run the country into the ground. Can you name a single thing that has improved over the last 3 years?

[–] [email protected] 13 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Min wage went, billions in affordable housing investments, GP visits being bulk billed all seem pretty nice. Theres plenty more but I don't remember them off the top of my head.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Min wage going up a tiny bit is negated by the 30%+ inflation from the current governments term.

What “affordable housing”? The one where not a single house was actually built?

https://www.news.com.au/national/prime-minister-anthony-albanese-accused-of-massive-fail-on-housing/news-story/c7799fbc997d11a0892ca1078158a194

GP visits being bulk billed? Almost every GP visit now costs you money out of pocket, even the ones that bulk bill.

[+] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

A few things wrong here:

I'm not blaming it on one person. I'm blaming the entire Labor government and their policies, along with the Greens and Teals who they make deals with to get things to pass.
The article I gave reports on what happened in the senate estimates hearings. Direct quotes are in there. You can feel free to look up what they said in your news source of choice - I simply gave news.com.au because it is the biggest Australian news site and is an aggregator of news from all different sources, left and right wing. Here's one reporting on the same thing but on a "socialist" left wing site: https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2025/03/12/kenh-m12.html Same quotes, same facts and figures.
I don’t know if you’re a bot, an idiot or just disingenuous but your argument is trash.

Rule 5 says hi.

You need to better understand how to separate what is being reported from who is reporting it. When it's direct quotes and verbatim responses with context provided, the site reporting it is basically irrelevant. A quick google of the information in the source I provided would show you that it is all factually correct and verifiable.

As for your personal attacks, grow up. I presented facts and sources to back them up. You dismissed them because you don't like what they said, even though what the article presents is factual.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I'm gonna keep enjoying having a party in power that wants better for people and actually has the ability to do it as opposed to the liberal party who doesn't give two shits about anyone who isn't a mining boss.

I'm gonna enjoy not having Medicare cut, not having education cut, not having fire management cut, not having NDIS cut and basically everything else the liberal party does.

I'm dismissing your arguments because you either have no idea about what the parties do, or you are actively being misleading. I don't actually care which one, but it's objective fact that one of the major parties tends to work to help people and actually run the country and the other one has the economic management skills of a dead, half rotten mouse while generally making life worse for almost everyone.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I’m gonna keep enjoying having a party in power that wants better for people and actually has the ability to do it as opposed to the liberal party who doesn’t give two shits about anyone who isn’t a mining boss.

Unfortunately for you you're also going to have to enjoy having a party in power that wants higher inflation, ever increasing house prices, ever increasing power bills, and ever increasing cost of living, because that's what their policies create.

Don't get me wrong - I didn't want the LNP to win either. The LNP are just Labor-lite, with an absolute spud for a leader (at least that will be changed now!). I've literally never voted for the LNP. Didn't this time either.

The NDIS is a great thing, but is horribly mismanaged and absolutely fraud central. What is going on with the NDIS is not sustainable and needs to be investigated and brought back under control. Again - huge fan of the idea of the NDIS, not a fan of how it has played out.

Medicare was never going to be cut btw.

but it’s objective fact that one of the major parties tends to work to help people and actually run the country and the other one has the economic management skills of a dead, half rotten mouse while generally making life worse for almost everyone.

This is far from "objective fact" though lol. Again - cost of living has been out of control under labor because of labors policies. The housing crisis is in large part due to Labors insane record levels of immigration. The much vaunted "economic management skills" haven't been seen for years at this point. When do they rear their head? The pattern has always been the LNP save money, the ALP spend it, rinse and repeat. Now they're both just trying to outspend each other.

I’m dismissing your arguments because you either have no idea about what the parties do, or you are actively being misleading.

I can say the same thinga bout your arguments, if you actually presented any that is.

Do you admit that the "affordable housing investment" was all a lie that resulted in absolutely nothing? Or are you still going to blame "fox news sources"?

Have our power bills gotten $275 cheaper from what they were in 2022 like promised by Albo? Or have they pretty much tripled since then?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Liberal party saving money? Are you delusional? I was going to ignore you entirely but my god that's stupid. The government debt more than doubled under the liberal party, because they spend the most on shit that helps their own pockets and nothing else.

The Labor party however turned back to back surpluses which the liberal government can't even get 1 of, at least in the last lot of repeated liberal governments.

The liberal party removed the debt ceiling for fucks sake, what has gone wrong in your life where you think one of the worst economic managers possible is better than Labor? Don't answer that, I don't actually care.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You must be new to politics.

LNP = Cuts, cuts, cuts. Taxes, taxes, taxes. Sell, sell, sell. Surplus / savings.

ALP = Spend, spend, spend. Handout, handout, handout. Subsidy, subsidy, subsidy. Debt.

The government debt more than doubled under the liberal party

Can you think of something that might have happened from 2019->early 2022 by any chance? Hmmm panderic? pandomic? hmmm sounds familiar.

The liberal party removed the debt ceiling for fucks sake

Ok so yeah you're really new to all this.

what has gone wrong in your life where you think one of the worst economic managers possible is better than Labor?

What has gone wrong in your life where you think the last 3 years have been good economic management? I can only think that you were born into wealth to where it doesn't affect you.

Again - I didn't want Dutton or the LNP in power. I just don't want Albo and the ALP/Greens/Teals, as their economic policies are going to absolutely destroy our country. They're doing NOTHING to address the ever increasing power prices, the housing crisis, or the cost of living crisis.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

You keep managing shit takes to bring me back. Liberal party didn't start in 2019. The debt was drastically rising before that.

I'm born into such wealth that the majority of my life has been drastically below the poverty line, enjoy your delusions.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Liberal party didn’t start in 2019.

So which doubling of the debt were you talking about here?

The government debt more than doubled under the liberal party

I’m born into such wealth that the majority of my life has been drastically below the poverty line, enjoy your delusions.

And you're ok with Labor making it even harder for you to ever afford a house, afford basic things like food and clothing, and not being able to pay your power bill?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Abbot started in 2013 and the debt doubled before COVID started. It's almost doubled again now but it went down for a year which is something the liberal party can't do, apparently.

They aren't making it harder, my pay has gone up over $1/h because of my award and being casual, I have more money than ever and am pretty confident that I'll be able to buy a house where I live without a big deal in a couple decades. My electricity hasn't changed a whole lot, it's still under 300 a quarter for the household and less during autumn/spring, the only thing that made it that high at all was getting AC installed.

Sorry but Labor is consistently a decent party.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

They aren’t making it harder, my pay has gone up over $1/h because of my award and being casual

And your costs have gone up significantly more than $1/h.

am pretty confident that I’ll be able to buy a house where I live without a big deal in a couple decades.

WITHIN A COUPLE OF DECADES and you're saying that like it's a great thing!?

My electricity hasn’t changed a whole lot

That doesn't match what the actual electricity prices and all reports say, so your situation is likely an edge case of shared bills and/or a battery system already exists.

You sound like you're young, right? Late teens/early twenties?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

My primary cost increase was I spent too much money on a car and it's not good on fuel and takes premium. That's more than every other expense going up combined and it's a very self inflicted problem.

Idk about you but most people have decades of mortgages, so a couple decades is normal.

I live rural so my prices on most things are different. No 700k average house price like in Adelaide. The electricity is the full house cost, we have solar but no battery because dropping all of my savings on a battery to save money on electricity that isn't costing a whole lot for us seems pretty wasteful. Seems like a thing for people with bigger electricity bills.

Almost 30, have seen throughout my life the liberal party doing consistent damage, and every time the Labor party shows up they pull us out of the shit and do a great job.

Currently I am the most economically comfortable I've ever been, including all parts of childhood. I haven't walked around a store doing math to figure out what I can actually afford in a couple years and I no longer have to think, well, if I run out of money I can live on oats for $30/w. Spent a lot of time pretty much exclusively eating oats. Not sure how well I'd go back to that given I spend that much in a day or 2 now on much nicer food.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Almost 30, so you've voted what, 3 times? Yeah you're new to this politics thing.

Idk about you but most people have decades of mortgages, so a couple decades is normal.

So you can afford a property with a mortgage now, or you will be able to get a mortgage "in a couple of decades"? Pretty significantly different things.

Ok so by the sounds of it youre way out where the cost of living increases havent been dramatic, neither has the house price issue. So you're an outlier and not really representative of the majority. It's a fact that the majority are struggling now more than ever, that there is a cost of living crisis, that there is a housing crisis, that there is a power price crisis. Even labor acknowledge this. They just won't take any blame and keep saying that they're the only ones that will fix it......with policies that make it worse.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I could get a mortgage in like 3 years if I felt like it (I really really don't, fuck interest).

They are pushing policies to fix it, as opposed to the liberal party who literally won't fix anything because they only make shit worse.

One party is trying to spend billions on housing, one isn't. One party is trying to get more cheaper electricity, one isn't. One party is increasing pay for the poorest in society, one isn't. One party wants to help the environment, one doesn't consider the environment to be an issue. One party is happy for LGBT people to exist, one isn't. One party is known for introducing major things that help Australians like Medicare, NDIS and super, one isn't. One party has managed a surplus in my adult life, one hasn't.

I'm not saying issues don't exist, I'm saying the party that is in power most of the time isn't fixing it, and the Labor party has a long history of being for workers and is actually trying to do something about it. its mostly competent and well meaning vs greedy and/or incompetent, and it's real clear with all the corruption and shady shit the coalition does which party is which.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

You’ve just spouted their party approved talking points like a good little party member. None of their plans actually do any of that. For all their “trying” to spend billions on housing, they’ve built nothing. They’ve been in power!!! They built nothing houses! Trying to get cheaper electricity? They’re not trying very hard by tripling electricity costs and locking us in to higher prices by “renewables”! Help the environment by bulldozing all the trees to build endless non-recyclable solar panels and wind turbines? No one “doesn’t want LBGTQ people to exist” lol.

Almost everything this Labor party has done is a complete shitshow, NDIS included. Labor are now looking at taxing unrealized gains on people’s super ffs!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Isn't declining culture war ideology a positive thing? Australia has a strong sense of community and identity politics destroys that

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Australia has a strong sense of community? That's being eroded every day. Our sense of community is being taken away in favour of "multiculturalism" and making sure every immigrants cultures and religions are respected, at the expense of our own identity and community.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Why would you prefer LNP when they were the ones who introduced more immigration?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Neither the ALP or LNP are prepared to do what needs to be done in terms of immigration. I didn't vote for the ALP or LNP.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If your preferred party didn't get any seats, you voted for the ALP or LNP.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

I know how voting works. What point were you trying to make?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Because you said you didn't vote for either, but all votes typically end up going to one or the other.

But what do you want done about immigration? Is it only immigration?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I said that because I didn’t. Where the preferences end up flowing is irrelevant. You’re essentially saying that everyone votes for the ALP or LNP which is a ridiculous way of thinking.

What do I want done about immigration? Pause it. Completely. We don’t have enough houses for the people we already have.

No it’s not only immigration.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

So what about the current immigration? The ones already here

What does that mean for the medical field, transportation, and cleaning? Immigrants are currently holding together all of these industries.

Is it just immigration from Asia or are we cool with immigration from America and Europe?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Current immigrants? Nothing unless they’re here illegally. Don’t extend any visas. Deport people who are caught overstaying their visa.

What does it mean for those industries? They can hire people that are still here. Those fields aren’t held together by immigrants lol. You’re just eating up the lies about “we need more skilled immigrants!”

No, we’re not cool with immigration from America or Europe. What’s hard to understand about this? Pause all immigration until we can get our shit together with the people we already have. You were trying to do a “Gotcha! You’re racist!” thinking that I only wanted to stop “brown people” from coming here, weren’t you? Sorry to disappoint.

It’s clear that our economy and infrastructure and everything else just can’t handle the amount of people we have. Realistically we need a few million population decrease - at least 5 million - in order to dig ourselves out of this situation. Instead Labor (and the LNP to a slightly lower extent) want to keep importing people so they get more tax and can make it look like the economy is flourishing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

No visa extensions? That's going to cause economic chaos, dude! Immigrants are a money-maker, removing them is just going to hit our ecnonomy. :(

What does it mean for those industries? They can hire people that are still here. Those fields aren’t held together by immigrants lol. You’re just eating up the lies about “we need more skilled immigrants!”

Yes, they are. If we can't even conclude that fact then there's nothing that can convince ya.

You were trying to do a “Gotcha! You’re racist!” thinking that I only wanted to stop “brown people” from coming here, weren’t you?

It's not racist to want fewer immigrants from certain countries. Some countries and cultures aren't entirely compatible.

Realistically we need a few million population decrease - at least 5 million - in order to dig ourselves out of this situation. Instead Labor (and the LNP to a slightly lower extent) want to keep importing people so they get more tax and can make it look like the economy is flourishing.

Labor's brought in fewer immigrants than the LNP has. And removing five million? That's insane. How's that improve the economy?

You're also implying that I'm pro-immigration, I'm not. We have too many, but that's because we used immigration to hold up Australia after Covid. Now we're in a tough spot where we need to remove them, but can't risk it economically.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

We NEED a recession. We NEED deflation. We need to get out entire economy back under control, and the more immigrants we bring in the worse it’s going to get. The solution to the population being too poor to have bulk excess cash to spend isn’t to import more people to bring their money with them, increasing inflation and the cost of living and housing crises.

If we stop importing people the population growth stops so we don’t have to keep importing all these supposed invaluable doctors and cleaners. It could even encourage people here to take up those professions.

I want to stop all immigration now, temporarily, and then when it’s viable bring it back in a more controlled way - and yes, that would include things like how likely people are to actually integrate into our culture and way of life.

Labor’s brought in fewer immigrants than the LNP has

Not lately they haven’t. Not since Covid. But again - I’m not saying LNP are the immigration stopping saviours. Like everything else this election cycle, they had a slam dunk and they bricked it in regards to immigration.

Our country can’t sustain this level of population, as we’re seeing. Homelessness, out of control cost of living, out of control house prices, etc etc. We shouldn’t be thinking of the economy first and foremost, that’s what got us here in the first place - the desire to always show a nice GDP growth above all else, even when real wages have gone backwards and everything people need is getting further and further out of reach.

We need a “great reset” of almost everything, including the economy. There’s just no way back from the damage Covid caused and the way the governments fucked it up in the aftermath. Wages across the board need to increase about 40% - for everyone - just to get back to pre-covid affordability for basic cost of living. That’s not happening, inflation is still making prices rise, as is higher energy costs, so people are falling further and further behind.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You're talking absolute nonsense, dude. There's no such thing as resetting the economy.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

That is what you respond with? You just ignore what I meant by “reset”? Recessions aren’t things? Deflation isn’t a thing?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

sure would be nice if there weren’t 2 major conflicts, recovering from the pandemic, and numerous other things that cause cost of living crisis and other things that every other country on earth is also going through

what’s that i hear? is that the sound of the IMF having ranked us 2nd best in the world for budget balance…

shit mate, maybe you’re repeating half truths and FUD from sky news

[–] [email protected] -1 points 4 days ago

A trillion dollars of debt we’ll be at soon. Our power bills have tripled thanks to the ALPs energy plan. Our “100% renewables” energy plan is going to cost us another trillion or so, probably more. Our housing crisis has been fuelled by mass immigration at levels never seen before - all under labor’s watch.

Labor have been a shitshow for the country in every way. The only good thing they’ve done is kept Dutton out.

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