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[–] kikutwo@lemmy.world 247 points 10 months ago

How about go fuck yourself.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 203 points 10 months ago (3 children)

As if the fucking Christian indoctrination wasn't already bad enough here.

[–] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 59 points 10 months ago

No. It's the woke that was doing the indoctrination.

Now, against the wall so we can inspect your purity.

[–] entwine413@lemm.ee 45 points 10 months ago (2 children)

You haven't seen anything yet. They're trying to build their own Saudi Arabia.

[–] turtlesareneat@discuss.online 32 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There is hope that the backlash from this will be brutal. It will take half a generation to get here. But overall Christianity is not gaining more net followers, especially not the asshole flavors that so vocally seem to represent it.

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[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 19 points 10 months ago (1 children)
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[–] lightsblinken@lemmy.world 107 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (6 children)

there's a lot going on in this article, but this part in particular is... uhh ... a really special form of religious virtue...

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I wish had no scruples because then I could sell people angels for $1,000

I love how the most devout Christians are always always complete shitheads

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[–] SereneSadie@lemmy.myserv.one 91 points 10 months ago (6 children)

I'm all for the separation of Trump's head and body.

[–] lupusblackfur@lemmy.world 81 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (4 children)

Donald Trump signed an executive order yesterday establishing a “religious liberty commission” at the Department of Justice (DOJ) to investigate and present strategies to eliminate “threats to domestic religious liberty.” During his comments on the order, Trump said that he doesn’t know if there’s a separation of church and state and that we should “forget about that for one time.”

Words alone simply fail to adequately describe my disgust and rage at this travesty.

[–] ChonkyOwlbear@lemmy.world 35 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Time to get to work Satanic Temple.

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[–] KarlHungus42@lemmy.world 66 points 10 months ago (2 children)

All of this is spelled out in project 2025. If you want to know what's coming next, just look at their website.

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[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 50 points 10 months ago (1 children)

hope this project 2025 is as successful as his casinos

[–] jeffw@lemmy.world 26 points 10 months ago (2 children)

It’s already more successful

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[–] SSNs4evr@leminal.space 49 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They'll be all about "forgetting" about that separation, all the way up until someone opens Beezlebubs Intermediate School of the Damned - then they'll be up in arms again.

[–] BussyCat@lemmy.world 42 points 10 months ago (1 children)

By uniting church and state they can claim that “beezlebubs intermediate School of the Damned” goes against the official religious doctrine so it is banned but “holy Christ of the saints of Peter school for conservative belief” is allowed and gets taxpayer dollars

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 19 points 10 months ago

What's that? Did I hear somebody say Beelzebub's Advanced Rifle Academy?

[–] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Sooner forget about the separation of his head from his shoulders but that ain't happening either

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[–] LuckyPierre@lemm.ee 38 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Religion is more powerful in countries with low education standards.

With the US government actively dismantling its education system, this is part of that bigger picture of wanting a dumber population so they're more easily controlled - through fear.

A shame to see America go so regressive so quickly.

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[–] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I cannot respect any "Christian" that voted for Trump. Least Christ like person on the planet, quite possibly.

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[–] skisnow@lemmy.ca 37 points 10 months ago (4 children)

A common theme of MAGA is inventing problems that they can solve.

The idea that Christianity in the US is under threat and needs additional protections, is some epic persecution complex.

[–] kent_eh@lemmy.ca 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

A common theme of MAGA is inventing problems that they can solve

That they can pretend to solve.

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[–] bizzle@lemmy.world 37 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I am a religious person even and this is insane. Do these people not read the Good Book? Trump is clearly the antichrist. And still all these chodes have... simp-pathy for the devil (because they simp so hard. I tried really hard to make that joke work this is the best I can do.)

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[–] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 33 points 10 months ago

I'd like to just forget about the church altogether

[–] nectar45@lemmy.zip 29 points 10 months ago (2 children)

But you dont even follow the teachings of Christ?

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[–] cyphear@lemm.ee 24 points 10 months ago (3 children)

The people who claim that America is a "Christian" nation don't ever read anything about the values the founders had. Most of them followed a deist philosophy.

[–] Phoenicianpirate@lemm.ee 21 points 10 months ago (1 children)

And Thomas Jefferson went out of his way to emphasis the separation of church and state.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 17 points 10 months ago

I'm starting to feel that Donald Trump might not entirely live up to the bar set by Thomas Jefferson.

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[–] Ilixtze@lemm.ee 23 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (3 children)

The final form of conservative regimes always resorts to imposing religion and rigid moral codes in order to suffocate any form of dissent. Conservatives have been painting themselves as the "rebels" in their manufactured culture wars and the warriors of freeze peach, but in the end it always funnels back to this: Bible authoritarianism. They will use this argument for push for more censorship, information control, stripping away rights and oppressing every community they deem against their dogmas. The writing has been on the wall for a decade now.

I am hoping that America's new implementation of this "Christian state" proves to be grotesque enough to serve as a warning for the rest of the world that even had the fleeting thought of going down this route. And I while am not very hopeful for Americans, I wish they find the strength to resist and revolt against this movement.

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[–] freeman@feddit.org 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Yesterday I watched the documentary "Hail Statan?", about The Satanic Temple. Not a bombastic documentary but shows a bit what they are, what modern satanism is and what they do in the US. They do mostly require an intact legal system to fight christian overreach so maybe its over for their legal battles

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[–] WickedZebra66@lemmy.world 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Isn't separating church and state really important?

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[–] Daggity@lemm.ee 23 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Well okay, trump is an adulterer and we have clear instructions about what we need to do about that.

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[–] AngrySquirrel@lemm.ee 22 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Oh lovely, a christian theocracy. How long before they start talking about having morality police?

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[–] dryfter@lemm.ee 22 points 10 months ago (1 children)

This is a complete upheaval of the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment of the Constitution per Wikipedia's entry on Separation of church and state:

Jefferson and the Bill of Rights

In English, the exact term is an offshoot of the phrase, "wall of separation between church and state", as written in Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. In that letter, referencing the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Jefferson writes:

Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State.[6]

Jefferson was describing to the Baptists that the United States Bill of Rights prevents the establishment of a national church, and in so doing they did not have to fear government interference in their right to expressions of religious conscience. The Bill of Rights, adopted in 1791 as ten amendments to the Constitution of the United States, was one of the earliest political expressions against the political establishment of religion. Others were the Virginia Statute for Religious Freedom, also authored by Jefferson and adopted by Virginia in 1786; and the French Declaration of the Rights of the Man and of the Citizen of 1789.

The metaphor "a wall of separation between Church and State" used by Jefferson in the above quoted letter became a part of the First Amendment jurisprudence of the U.S. Supreme Court. It was first used by Chief Justice Morrison Waite in Reynolds v. United States (1878). American historian George Bancroft was consulted by Waite in the Reynolds case regarding the views on establishment by the framers of the U.S. constitution. Bancroft advised Waite to consult Jefferson. Waite then discovered the above quoted letter in a library after skimming through the index to Jefferson's collected works according to historian Don Drakeman.[30]

As an atheist that agrees more with Buddhism and Paganism than any organized religion this infuriating. I went to Catholic Church and school for 18 years of my life, I know what it's like to be "forced" to believe in something you don't.

Are they going to keep records of who goes to what churches and arrest people if they don't go to the correct church at the correct time and day?

I don't give a shit what anyone believes as long as they are not an asshole, that's their own business. I've had people try to shove their religion on me and it's not fun. If I had the financial means to leave this country I absolutely would now even if I was a Christian and went to church every Sunday.

This is REALLY freaking dangerous and scary on top of all the REALLY freaking dangerous and scary other bullshit Orange Man and his Disciples of Dumbasses have been doing since January 20th.

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[–] chrischryse@lemmy.world 20 points 10 months ago (1 children)

So I occasionally check the Fox News site just to see what the idiot commenters say because I find it sad yet entertaining...anyway for the article that was posted about htis issue several people were like "this is a good thing, because sepration of church and state isn't in teh constitution" like bruh have you read the constiutuion? It's literally stated in teh first amendment xD

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[–] Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca 18 points 10 months ago

Well then Allah be praised!

/S

[–] Freshparsnip@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago (5 children)

Something I'm confused about: if Republicans believe government policy should be based on Christian values, why are they against government programs helping the poor?

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[–] Rakonat@lemmy.world 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

Let's just forget about the right to bear arms

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[–] Inaminate_Carbon_Rod@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago (29 children)

Christian here.

Trump can fuck all the way off with that bullshit.

[–] Balthazar@lemmy.world 24 points 10 months ago (1 children)

The separation of church and state protects the church from the state at least as much as the state from the church. Christians should fear a "Christian" state.

[–] Australis13@fedia.io 18 points 10 months ago

This. All the Christians that support a theocracy need to stop and realise that there's no guarantee that their particular denomination is going to be the one running said theocracy. The whole concept of freedom of religion depends on the separation of church and state.

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