Who do think will be VP? : politicalmemes

[–] empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

Shapiro is an attorney. Yawn.
Kelly is an engineer at heart, and a highly praised, disciplined, and decorated one at that.

Consider me biased as an engineer myself, but considering Harris is already an attorney, having a greater diversity of specialization at the top will go a long ways towards the functionality of their administration.

And, honestly, we're in an optics war at this point. Kelly is the pick for optics. They don't let just anyone become astronauts, he has a PR presence nationally that predates this election, and he can lean a lot on his honorable Air Force career to boot.

Also, when I hear the last name "Shapiro" the only cunt I can think of is Ben...

[–] bi_tux@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

I don't know anything about US politics, but I like the engineer guy too

[–] GBU_28@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Politics aside, building a ticket with these two is like minmaxxing a RimWorld squad

[–] lennybird@lemmy.world 21 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

If this was intended to make Shapiro look good, this proves the point on Kelly in a way.

For my low-info battleground state uncle, all I need to say is, "Kelly is an astronaut and navy fighter pilot. He's a moderate" that's it.

Shapiro brings charisma but my uncle won't actually see that charisma ever anyway. I have no one-sentence bite-sized argument for him.

[–] Artyom@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago

Yeah this is the real problem. Anyone who is somehow undecided after 4 years of Trump is gonna need to be convinced in a single sentence with small words or it's gonna go right over their head.

[–] Wilzax@lemmy.world 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Kelly would be cool as fuck.

Shapiro would make me feel better about this election.

I think Kamala will choose one of these two and have a pretty good chance of winning either way, so I don't really care.

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I am not against Kelly at all so let me preface with that before I say the following: it is so bizarre to me how there was such an insane purity test/demonization of any moderate stance for any potential Democrat candidate on lemmy yet a moderate such as Kelly is handwaved away with “but astronaut” lol

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

"But Astronaut" is a pretty damned high bar in many people's views, in large part because of the stringent qualifications. They're also the very few that actually get to experience the Overview Effect.

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I get all that but like…being an astronaut doesn’t just overwhelm all other considerations lol

Anyway I like the dude. It’s just wild watching all the cheerleading for a very moderate, totally not-progressive VP pick “because astronaut.” I’m sure there are/were astronauts who are/were shitty people lol

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

I get all that but like…being an astronaut doesn’t just overwhelm all other considerations lol

Gabby Giffords as Second Lady would be a great addition that comes included with a Kelly pick.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You're right, but it's also not the only non-traditional qualifier though. For many people the fact that the Second Lady would be Gabby Giffords is also a consideration. Between the two of them, they've been on a national stage for a long time.

For many people, this Is one of the first times they're really hearing about Shapiro, and the fact there's a dipshit on the MAGA side with the same last name, well that just complicates average voter perception. Name recognition and differentiation is massive for the voters that don't follow politics constantly.

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Maybe I’m out of touch but I don’t think 99%+ of the country could name a single Second Lady besides those who became First Ladies later and I imagine most people can’t name any First Ladies other than Jill Biden, and/or Hillary Clinton, and/or Michelle Obama, and/or Nancy Reagan. Hillary Clinton for obvious reasons deserves an asterisks on that list.

I’m sure they’re great campaigners sometimes but I really don’t see a Second Lady having a meaningful impact on an election unless they’re already a household name and even then I’m skeptical.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That's kind of my point though. Gabby Giffords was a US Representative that was thrust into the national spotlight when she survived an assassination attempt in 2013 at a public Town Hall.

Unlike most political spouses, she was actually the politician of the couple before Mark Kelly ran in 2020. He's actually very new to politics directly.

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That’s a good point and I feel bad for forgetting about that

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

In fact, I hadn't even considered the Giffords assassination attempt as a foil against Trump's use of his own in his campaign advertising.

[–] SteveFromMySpace@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Oh shit that’s also a good point

[–] Passerby6497@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

“But Astronaut” is a pretty damned high bar in many people’s views, in large part because of the stringent qualifications.

And then you have stuff like this.

[–] expatriado@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

Beshear: "hold my bourbon balls"

[–] Korne127@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago

What about Beshear?

[+] Stovetop@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

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[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

The Arizona Senate seat would be filled by the Governor for the remainder of the current session. The current governor is a Democrat, but even if she was not, AZ law requires the appointment to be from the same party.

The seat has no chance of changing hands until the next regular election either way.

[–] swab148@lemm.ee 4 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Kelly being VP would actually trigger a special election in 2026.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world 5 points 2 years ago

Kelly's seat is up for reelection in 2026 regardless. He was elected in 2020 and Senate seats are 6 year terms.

[–] JimmyBigSausage@lemm.ee 8 points 2 years ago

With Kelly you get Giffords 👍🏼

[+] c0smokram3r@midwest.social 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Wary*

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm just going to leave this here.

[–] Godric@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That is indeed part of the calculations!

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Well, they have 39,000 dead Palestinians to assuage their bloodlust, with a few tens of thousands more to come from starvation. Forgive me if I don't immediately cast my thoughts to the plight of poor, downtrodden AIPAC. The last thing the Israeli lobby needs is more influence in the Executive branch.

[–] blazera@lemmy.world -3 points 2 years ago

Theyre both pretty awful

[+] Korne127@lemmy.world -8 points 2 years ago

I know it's not anything remotely realistic, but I'd love a VP Fetterman

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