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[–] FaceDeer@fedia.io 78 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I don't want to hear that they're "considering" it, actually do it.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 41 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They 'consider' it, Hungary backs down, 1 week later Hungary blocks another decision involving the Ukraine. Repeat ad infinitum

[–] BenLeMan@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

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[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 49 points 10 months ago

Better late than never

[–] Hikuro93@lemmy.world 33 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

That's the issue. Too much threatening, too little going forward with it.

No one wants unnecessary conflict. We all want to get along. But when you have people acting in bad faith, who know you're bluffing, they'll take advantage of you everytime.

Because they know you'll complain but that's the extent of it. If they act in bad faith apply consequences, don't hold back. When they complain or throw a pity party don't waver. They knew it was coming, they were warned.

With the US adding fuel to the fire we're at a crossroads in history. Russia wants to buy time, and excessive bureocracy and empty threats only aid them and their cronies.

[–] D_C@lemm.ee 20 points 10 months ago

Don't consider it...just fucking do it! Ffs, with all this 'may', 'might', and 'consider' bullshit.
Organ orban is obviously a puppet.

[–] ByteJunk@lemmy.world 16 points 10 months ago

[Orban argues that] epidemics would spread due to insufficient vaccination rates among Ukrainians

I was expecting all other vile, baseless attack from that swine, but this one I didn't see coming...

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 8 points 10 months ago
[–] tgm@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Please do, or kick them out. It is fair to expect some level of alignment as requirement for membership

[–] riodoro1@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

They considered it and decided not to.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 3 points 10 months ago (3 children)

Just being devil's advocate, but what's the point of a voting system when those in power can strip voting rights from a country when their votes are inconvenient.

I'm not supporting Orban here, because he's a Putin puppet that. However if your system can't handle a single country disagreeing without needing to cheat the system, you might want to question your system.

[–] Reddfugee42@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

There should be checks and balances on everything, including determining when member states have gone rogue.

@Reddfugee42 @wewbull Any system without checks and balances has already gone rogue. Hungary is an example, and soon the US will be as well.

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago (1 children)

They have consistently moved away from our ideals to the benefit of our enemies while defrauding out coffers. We need mechanisms to halt this. I would prefer to see them removed completely, they have not made enough of an effort to remain a member.

[–] wewbull@feddit.uk 4 points 10 months ago (1 children)

I agree, but it appears to be the weakness of all multi-national organisations. The UN security council is paralyzed by the fact that the US and Russia have veto powers. The League of Nations was similarly paralyzed before it. NATO can't do anything unless the US is involved, and the EU is hamstring by one nation out of 27.

[–] Auli@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 months ago

Why have a system with veto powers at all. One country should not be able to stop something.

[–] rockerface@lemm.ee 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

That's not cheating the system tho, it's part of the system. Blocking a country's veto power is not something they can just pull out of their ass, there's a process.

[–] fluxion@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

And Hungary has earned it after 3 years of downright hostile positions to further Russia