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Obama, Pelosi, Schumer and 2/3rds if Democrats want him out but he's refusing like an old man whose grown children are trying to take away the car keys before he hurts someone.
Unlike those grown children, Democrats don't hold the same love and care for grandpa to force them to grow a pair of balls to know that it's in everyone's best interest and force the issue to pass.
"Most important election in my life" my ass; all that they have to do is stop helping a genocide and they would win, but no.
Tell me the plan that gets more unified support than the current president.
Anything other than the current president.
The Dems trying to start the campaign over from scratch with someone else this far into the year is just stupid. It's giving the election to the Republicunts and they're salivating.
They shouldn't have had hm run in the fucking first place and been able to actually plan a campaign. This is so fucking amateurish it's pathetic.
Strong disagree.
I live in a small bubble so to speak, and am only as good as what I see online and the few people I talk to about this. I would personally be way more engaged and excited if biden steps down, and so would a few of my friend/colleagues I'm comfortable talking about this topic with.
I think biden staying in is our worst chance at beating trump. If he leaves dem voters will be energized. If he and kamala are both out, even more energized.
I'm way way more nervous if biden sticks it out. Biden can barely walk without help, and barely speak coherently. The optics are extremely important. And now dumbass trump has that stupid fist in the air meme.
He needs to drop out now.
Biden is the best chance of winning. Any other choice means Trump wins.
I'm just not buying that. I think Biden's people and a lot of people walking on eggshells for him may have convinced themselves of that (maybe). But I bet that narrative flips the minute he steps down.
I’m not buying that. Trying to change candidates this late in the game is such a bad idea that the only person that would suggest it is someone who wants Trump to win.
Given that every point of data shows Trump winning in a landside, and probably getting the house and Senate, if Biden stays in suggests that people advocating for Biden staying in want Trump to win.
See what I did there?
Fun fact, actual data supports one and only one of us.
Are you a Russian bot that wants Trump to win?
Literally every point of actual data disagrees with you.
What did the data say for Hillary vs Trump? Pretty accurate eh?
Actually, yeah. That election turned out within the margin of error of the polls.
Everyone who was surprised by the result needs media literacy classes.
I'd also add my speculation that the repubs want biden to stay in, as he's their best shot at winning.
Anyone else would be an unknown, and I think would be positive.
Biden is easily the best chance of winning
30% approval?
What were the approval ratings for Trump vs Hillary? Pretty accurate eh?
Your gut is not data.
This is a public statement. Privately, he’s been saying much different things
Wow. So the user that does the lion's share of the posting on news/politics on lemmy.world (from what I've observed) states his confound knowledge of the private conversations of POTUS. The very same lemmy.world that has an overwhelming amount of posted coverage of democrats urging Joe Biden to step down, to an arguably oppressive degree. Without a replacement even considered aside from VP Harris. Four months before a presidential election. With the known American attention span. Smells awful.
For the love of all that is holy, vote blue in November to avoid immediate Fascism and CONTINUE to press for our rights and dignity as human beings!
Four months before a presidential election. With the known American attention span.
You do realize that those two facts mean the opposite is what you imply in your comment, right?
My comment and its underlying meaning imply that there isn't enough time to put in a new candidate. Four months from November, there isn't adequate time to get everyone necessary on board, and too much influence will bleed off to Trump. I mean put Biden in now, fix it after we've cleared the election OR put a strong candidate up NOW with unequivocal confidence and put all the money and skill available behind it. Not committing to a strong course of action now (one way or the other) is tantamount to sabotage.
You were doing okay until the genocide thing. I doubt the "genocide" even enters into it for most independent voters.
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Alright this is getting fucking ridiculous. If he won't exit with dignity then just 25th amendment his ass.
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