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I always tell my kids about survival jobs. Youtube, Twitch, being an artist are all gigs. Most of these people have another job. Even professional actors have a job than acting, same as authors.
And don't forget that sometimes websites can randomly close your account without warning and reason given. They will just say you violated their terms of use without telling you what you did.
Years ago I tried to make a living on eBay, making up to $5K a month with an eBay store. The only problem was that they would randomly shut me down for a few days, a week, even a month, with little to no information as to why. Whenever there was information, it simply wasn't true. There was nobody to appeal to, and any contact was met with a canned email.
Worse, they didn't just suspend my store, they would delete it entirely, so when the suspension ended, I would have to rebuild my entire store from scratch (over 200 different items). To compound the issue, any transactions that were processing at the time of the suspension kept going without being able to make contact with them, causing lost sales and bad customer service, resulting in poor reviews that dragged my rating down. I was busting my ass to operate professionally, and my only problem was eBay itself.
Eventually, compounded with issues with PayPal, I concluded that I could never make a living using those sketchy platforms. Occasionally, I'll buy something on eBay, but I've never used it to sell anything since.
Wow, I hope you were able to move elsewhere for your online store. It sucks easy did that. There is a human you can get to but that was years ago. Last time was in 2020 when I talked to a human in chat when I was having an issue with my order.
Not sure if it changed.
Back in 2004/5 there was nobody to speak with. It was all by email, and the only response was just a form letter.
And no, there was no place else to go, I just stopped doing that business, and started an entirely different, off line, business.
I didnt realize it was that long ago. Ebay has changed a lot. It used to be, people just sold stuff there to get rid of and then people started to do businesses on it and now it's catered towards professional sellers than for people who just want to get rid of stuff. There are payouts now. Most items are buy it now than bidding. Not so much of an auction site.
Depends on what you do I guess, I'll admit I didn't feel like watching the video. There's always Kickstarter, or Etsy, or eBay? Or GoFundMe if you want to just outright beg for money.
After watching the video, fuck Apple for taking an exhorbitant 30% cut, and fuck Patreon for demanding that creators use the Apple in-app purchase system. This is shown at 7:10 if you want to skip past a lot of her fluff.
"Hey guys come catch all my new videos on my own website"
Put the old stuff on YouTube, FB, insta, tiktok, and encourage traffic to your site.
Profit.
These platforms have incentives to keep you on the platform. So their recommendation algos will purposefully down rank stuff that tries to convert to elsewhere.
You trying to ask creators to create stuff? Crazy talk. That's so 2006.
Pretty much, allows you to set your own content policy really, as long as you don't break laws the only risk then is for the domain name. Not sure what you would have to do for most domain registrars to drop your domain.
tl;dw? Watched the first several minutes but still not even sure what it's about.
they're removing creators' ability to charge per creation and forcing them to charge only via monthly subscription.
It's an absolutely dick move by Patreon.
I guess Patreon figure it will make them as a platform more money, because people tend to forget about subscriptions and just let them keep going.
But it's awful for creators who release less frequently, because people will start to feel cheated when months go by and they don't get anything. And I'm sure the creators won't enjoy that pressure either.
It's like Patreon are cracking the whip, telling creators "Work faster, you have to justify your monthly subscription now!"
Assholes.
I guess I just be weird because an ongoing monthly subscription to a creator is never something I’m willing to consider, though I have made many one-time contributions.
It's about time for patreon to start being crappy, and lose to the next challenger who is good, if the cynic calendar is on point in this case.
Wow, that's sure gonna fuck a lot of creator that put out content once every few months.
Interesting, I wonder why they would do that...
More stable revenue for the shareholders maybe
I wondered too. It was explained here: https://lemmy.world/post/28040267
They don't really seem to know for sure either. I'd heard about the Apple issue a long time ago so it's curious that's it's being brought up now.
Obligatory Fuck Apple.
True. I should have said that there was enough information there to satisfy my interest in the matter. Which was small.
And this is why platforms are nice yet cutting the middle man is important. There was a time before walled gardens.
You kinda need a payment processor unless you want people to start mailing cash in the post.
Before people ruined it this was one of the ideas behind crypto
I hate so much everytime I remember what cryptocurrency was supposed to be and what has become.
For a little while I bought coffee and strawberries with Bitcoin back more than 9ish years ago. It was pretty cool easy with the first apps.
Worked well.
I got some works my a couple of contracts. So not so much Fiat was needed. Only later.
If nothing else it's a bit of a faff. But again you'd need someone to convert it to fiat for it to be useful in every day life, which isn't super removed from a payment processor. It's pretty much difficult to get away from a middleman somewhere.
The idea is it becomes the fiat
We need to get rid of gatekeepers!