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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Not fast enough not soon enough.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Depends where you live. This means nothing in California. This is an extreme change in Georgia.

[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 days ago

They need to stop using fixed values and switch to a calculation based on GDP, cost of living, inflation, and other such factors. If you do that you don't need to keep fighting to increase it.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 days ago (4 children)

By 2030, $17 will be the equivalent of $5/hr. Can we just skip the bullshit and tie minimum wage to 2xSGA@40hr/wk? Right now that'd be about $18.70

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Sweet. $17/hr * 40 = $680 a week * 4 = $2720 a month * 52 = $32640 all before tax. Still not enough to live on.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 days ago

Yeah, the “$15 an hour” debate has been going on for so long that the number has realistically increased to ~$23 per hour. And if a $23/hr minimum wage makes you balk, maybe you should consider how little you’re being paid for the job you currently do.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 days ago

And in five years, it'll seem like even less.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 days ago

Even terrorist organizations have higher minimum wage than the USA.

[–] [email protected] 118 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The fight for $15 movement started 13 years ago. $15 in 2012 money is equal to over $20 in 2025 money. It's taking the most progressive senator we've got to even suggest a pittance that is below what we've been asking for for over a decade.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Median one bed apartment rent, across the entire US, is $1550 as of Feb 2025.

Lets knock 20% of that off, to approximate a median studio apartment instead, give some leeway to poorer parts of the country.

(there are not as good or reliable general stats counted for studio apartments, but a studio being 20% less than a one bed is... hopefully a reasonable, napkin math aporoximation)

Ok, that's $1240.

Alright, now we use the 'rent should be 30% of your income' rule.

Thats $4135 a month, rounded up very slightly to the nearest 5.

Ok, 40 hours a week, roughly 4 weeks a month = 160 hours.

4135 / 160 = $25.85, again rounded up to the closet 5 cents for simplicity, so thats your actual minimum 'living wage'.

If you wanna say a studio should be 30% off a one bedroom?

Math works out to roughly $22.60

If you wanna say an actual one bedroom should be the standard, works out to about $32.60

Any way you look at this, $17 an hour is too low, that's still... you can't even afford a studio (as in, you cannot pass the rent to income threshold without a cosigner or double deposit or somethingnon your lease) you need roommates, you're still living with your parents.

[–] [email protected] 62 points 4 days ago (6 children)

And it is $17 in 2030.

Here from Europe, let me recommend one thing we do well: we link our equivalent of social security to the average wage growth, not to inflation.

This ensures that all voters benefit from wage growth. And thus all voters demand the same thing from the politicians.

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[–] [email protected] 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

It’ll need to be $400 by 2030 to keep up with Trumpflation.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 days ago (4 children)

It already realistically needs to be between 25-30 an hr to even be considered a living wage.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Too bad too many don't consider minimum wage as something that should be a living wage

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[–] [email protected] 71 points 4 days ago (19 children)

NO!! Not a number! Tie it to inflation, as a proportion!! Picking a specific number is what got us in this mess in the first place

[–] [email protected] 37 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you look at the timeline in the article, post-2030 the act states that it would be indexed.

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[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 days ago

Is this a joke...?

[–] [email protected] 17 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Should read "benefiting all Americans"

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