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I wish I could see Iranians as some sort of freedom fighters standing up against the Zionist agenda.
Unfortunately, Iran's leadership means the country is even worse than Israel.
I don't really see why Iran is any worse than Israel, other than Iran has brown people living in it. Once you cut past all the crap and bad faith, ultimately we judge Iran worse than Israel because of skin color.
Both are nominal but deeply flawed democracies. Both hold large numbers of political dissidents on bogus charges as a matter of course. Both are theocracies that make their religion a core component of their governmental structure. Both engage in large scale acts of mass state-sponsored terrorism. Both have or seek to have a nuclear arsenal.
The only real difference I can see is that Iran hasn't invaded anyone in the whole modern history of the country. The Iranian government is a bunch of peace-and-love hippies compared to the Israelis.
Regime kills about 30.000 people in a few days – gets called "peace-and-love hippies".
Also I don't dig that crap about skin color.
If you gave a single fuck about Iranians, you'd know that the better and newer estimates hover around the thousands and not tens of thousands. For reference, estimates of dead Palestinians since Oct 7th due to violence and privation of food, water, energy and medicine, range in the half million.
How many tens of thousands of Iranians have been murdered by US+EU sanctions knowing that said sanctions murder half a million people worldwide EVERY YEAR?
I will never understand why someone would defend an authoritarian regime because some other regime is bad.
Iran is killing its own citizen that are peacefully protesting. One death is to much.
The US and EU are killing Iranian citizens by the hundreds of thousands with the extreme sanctions the country is subjected to. The protests are happening primarily because of the currency devaluating due to sanctions.
Discussing the morality or immorality of the Iranian regime under such conditions and weeks before a US armed strike on Iran amounts to atrocity propaganda, and it's exclusively done to justify military invasion to progressives (probably like you). I know that your heart is in the right place by arguing against the Iranian regime, but doing it now amounts to running Zionist and western imperialist propaganda.
If you care about Iranians, you should focus on their most immediate and harmful threat: the one caused by the European and American regimes, under which you likely are living. Fight against the extreme sanctions murdering Iranians through lack of access to medicine and basic goods, and fight against the military invasion that threatens to turn Iran into another failed state as it happened in Iraq, Libya or Syria.
If one death is too much, march for the abolition of economic sanctions by Europe and the USA, they literally murder half a million people per year. Per The Lancet medical journal:
In the 50 years of the study, that amounts to above 25 million murders worldwide. I strongly urge you to raise awareness about this.
How should we know when they cut off access to the internet and don't allow journalists to document evidence?
And meanwhile, Israel has instituted a policy of the deliberate mass execution of journalists on an industrial scale.
Where?
Because the 30k figure is extremely inflated by Israel-associated media
So you trust the Iranians simply because they're not Israeli? Even though they've done everything to conceal as much information as possible?
Interesting.
Who said I trust the Iranian government? It's simply obvious that Israel-associated media inflates the figures. Parroting Israeli propaganda uncritically is unwise.
I think you might be propagandized.
Iranian government puts the death toll about 3000. I didn't specify that figure, I believe it could be higher but still within the thousands.
You're the one swallowing Zionist propaganda.
Where are you getting your figures from, then?
It's sad you think this just because I'm scrutinizing your information.
Even anti-Iranian-government nonprofits headquartered in Washington DC are giving figures around the 7000.
Stop propagating Zionist propaganda
See? All you had to do was answer my original question, which was why you believed what you did despite the Iranian government doing everything in their power to suppress information.
Start using your brain. People aren't immediately part of the opposition just because they don't suck your dick when you make a claim without a source.
I was responding to Zionist propaganda, you're the one who decided to jump in and take the bullet. Ask yourself why you do this, and if you doubt information, maybe consider looking it up yourself, search engines are mostly free. Instead of publicly asking "how could we know", you could do that yourself and get informed.
Oh, there it is. You get to make any claim you want then blame others for not verifying it for you.
Nah man. That might work in your neck of the woods, but that shit doesn't fly around people with brains.
And no, I didn't "take the bullet." I rightfully scrutinized where you were getting your information, and your "with us or against us" attitude made you think that I was somehow fighting for Israel.
You don't know how indoctrinated you are and you need to work on learning from it.
I'm going to ignore you now because people like you have to constantly respond to save face, no matter what. You're probably going to respond with more asinine bullshit to make it seem like I'm defending Israel or being unfair to Iran, but you should know that you're wrong even if I don't keep replying to tell you.
Good luck in life. You're going to need it.
You could have used 1% of the time it took to write that comment to inform yourself on the current estimates.
Terrorism (n): violence committed by low income people with dark skin complexion.
Then you genuinely need to open your eyes.
On what criteria are they worse than Israel? Neither are good. They're both authoritarian theocratic hellholes. One is a rogue state with a nuclear arsenal, the other is a rogue state seeking a nuclear arsenal. But Iran hasn't invaded any nation in its modern history, while Israel invades people on the regular.
You need to open your eyes. You don't even know why Iran is bad. You've just had a lifetime of propaganda calling them evil while our own allies over there, Israel and Saudi, are just as bad if not worse.
Treatment of their civilians.
This is rich. If I didn't think so little of the average internet-user, I'd assume you were trolling.
The Palestinians who were just wholesale slaughtered in Gaza were civilians. Iran does not treat civilians worse than Israel.
Growing up and forming adult political views usually just means realizing that everyone is fucking evil as fuck.
We're in the warhammer 40,000 universe but without the cool capes and swords.
It's the Netanyahu agenda. He's just like trump.
He's a fraudster who got reelected when he should be in jail.