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What we have called “motorcycles” should actually be called “enginecycles”. Also, the engine on enginecycles is a four-cycle engine.

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[–] fizzle@quokk.au 47 points 1 week ago (25 children)

I'm a bit triggered by this, so let me apologize in advance for the incoming rant.

You might be kind of right etymologically, but bikes, e-bikes, motorcycles, and likely in the near future e-motos, are specific things defined by law. The confusion between these vehicle classes is causing harm.

An e-bike is a pedal powered bicycle with an electric motor that assists the rider while pedalling up to 25km/h. You might be able to switch modes between more assistance and less assistance but there is no throttle.

If you purchase a cheap walmart / k-mart bike, swap the rear wheel with a powered hub from alibaba and strap on a battery from temu, that's not an e-bike. They have a throttle and no limiter and in most cases can propel a 12 year old idiot at 50km/h but some times more than 70km/h. This is not an e-bike and more accurately described as an unregulated electric motorbike.

The frame isn't built for this kind of stress, and the riders often have no capacity to understand the danger they're imposing on themselves and others - zipping past kids playing and so on.

It's an emerging disaster in Australia and I imagine other places as well. It's turning the population against e-bikes when they're not the problem.

We urgently need more appropriate legislation drafted to clearly define the classes of vehicle, and we need police with the right skills and equipment to enforce those laws.

[–] YellowParenti@lemmy.wtf 1 points 1 week ago (2 children)

I've been following the surron and talaria bikes. These are electric dirt motorcycle. Half the vidoes I've seen are ppl riding them on the street. They've gotten so fast. They write all over their websites its for OFF ROAD USE ONLY. I want one so bad. Im sure if I ride them slowly on the sidewalk for my commute. I shouldn't get pulled over.

[–] gnu@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Depending on where you are you might be able to get a road legal one. Talaria and Surron have both sold road legal versions of some of their models here in Australia, I believe they've also done so in the UK and I did read something about some US states letting you register them once appropriate lights are installed.

Of course this does require you to treat them as a motorbike and keep off footpaths, have the appropriate licence, etc. Once you've got the licence you can ride other motorbikes as well though so I don't see this as a downside (it's an enjoyable method of transport and more people should do it).

[–] NotJohnSmith@feddit.uk 3 points 1 week ago

I'm at the uncool end of that trend in the UK. I dumped my car 4yrs back and got an electric vespa-shaped vehicle. I already had my full bike licence which helped make it an easy decision but even in our weather really enjoyable and nsanely cheap motoring

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