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[–] hobovision@mander.xyz 4 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

You're intentionally leaving out that the landlord maintains the property and appliances. That's no small thing.

There are absolutely bad landlords who will do as little as their tenants will allow them to, for sure. Landlords aren't like cops though, the continuing existence of bad landlords is not enabled by good ones like how "good cops" do.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 13 points 7 hours ago

The landlord uses my rent money to pay others to maintain the property. It's an entirely middle man position of zero value to society

[–] tmyakal@infosec.pub 6 points 7 hours ago

You can own a property and pay landscapers and handyman for less than the cost of renting. Hell, I've had landlords pay property managers to handle even that.

[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world 7 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Good landlords will only be as good as they need to be, to continue renting. In a housing shortage, that means they will keep getting worse over time, doing little and hearing little from their tenants who have only ever dealt with predatory landlords.

They will almost always charge as much as they can, not doing anything to help the renters.

The exceptions to this will be invisible on the market, because renters will do everything in their power to never move out or change their situation.

Long time renters are trapped, because they are paying nearly as much as a mortgage, and getting no equity from it, unable to save a down payment to get out of it.

Renting to seasonal, temp workers or students is about the only exception where renting is a necessary service, but currently its way over priced, so its not a great value. So still predatory.

[–] hobovision@mander.xyz 1 points 8 hours ago (2 children)

Keep dodging.

This "landlords are purely evil and rent is stealing" discourse doesn't do any of us any good. It's dishonest and makes people with sense not want to join your cause. If we actually want to make housing better and more available, we can't be wasting our time throwing with this.

[–] BlackDragon@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 hours ago

Landlords are purely evil, they are nothing but a drain on society, and if you disagree you're my enemy and we have no common cause.

[–] running_ragged@lemmy.world -2 points 8 hours ago

Which of my statements are false?