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I'm kind of surprised that this seems to be an unpopular opinion around here, since I've always thought of Lemmy as being pretty leftist as opposed to liberal/capitalist, but there seems to be a base assumption here that voting with your dollar and trying to purchase the most "ethical" thing through the most "ethical" channels is worth the time and energy.

To me it has always seemed intuitive. I mean, what is the goal anyway? If the goal is to destroy the company you hate and replace it with the one you like (which btw you won't, for many reasons), you're doomed from the start because capitalism is gonna capitalism, and that brand you like and think is more ethical is at the end of a day, still a brand whose primary purpose is to make money, and they will put that above all else. If the goal is for the unethical company to make a smaller, more specific change, you're also doomed because the company you're silently protesting has no idea why you've stopped spending money with them, and likely doesn't care so long as others continue to spend.

To me, it seems more about making you feel good about yourself than bringing about real change. Which is further supported by the hostility that often comes with ethical consumerism towards people who don't engage with it - people who fundamentally agree with them but who apparently must be shunned for their purchasing decisions. Obviously I'm all up for humiliating Cybertruck owners or whatever, but there's a limit (looking at you, anti-Brave thread that pops up every month or so).

This brings me into the other problems with ethical consumerist rhetoric - it takes an inordinate amount of time because you have to research every company you engage with in every area to find the "most ethical" one, whatever that means, as well as the subsidiaries of those companies so you can recognize them in the wild. Many of these companies are monopolies or oligopolies and actively try to hide their subsidiaries. This time could be better spent toward much more productive activities that actually have the potential to bring about change. "More ethical" products also tend to be more expensive, and for this reason low income people typically can't engage in ethical consumerism. This money is likely also better spent donated toward organizations trying to bring about real sociopolitical/economic change.

I also draw a distinction between "vote with your dollar"/"ethical consumerist" rhetoric and well-organized boycotts with specific demands because these types of boycotts have actually been effective in the past, and it makes intuitive sense why. When you have a lot of organized people who together have lots of buying power asking for one specific thing, with the carrot of "if you do x specific thing, we will come back and start spending again," rather than the vague ethical consumerist position of "you're not ethical enough for me," all of a sudden it makes good financial sense to the company to make that specific change. The successful boycotts I've seen in the past have met both of these criteria.

Sorry this got to be so long and sorry if there are errors in it, I just kind of word vomited.

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[–] hesh@quokk.au 1 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

It is ridiculous, and we shouldn't have to worry about all this. Sadly the alternative is accelerating everything bad. So it's up to those of us awake to the issue to do whatever we can.

[–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 0 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago) (1 children)

Sadly the alternative is accelerating everything bad. So it's up to those of us awake to the issue to do whatever we can.

I guess I just don't think the only alternative is "ethical consumerism" and I don't think that will it ever create any significant change given how difficult it is to do well (if such a thing is even possible) and how few people realistically will ever engage with it to begin with. There are lots of methods of resistance, many of which have been shown to create real systemic change in the past and in my opinion are far more worth your time money and effort, including:

  • Participating in boycotts that are well-organized with specific actionable demands
  • Labor movements/union power
  • Donating to political orgs fighting for systemic change
  • Voting for direct democratic initiatives that push policy forward
  • Moving from for profit solutions to community built ones, buy nothing groups, mutual aid, etc.

Maybe we will just have to agree to disagree

[–] hesh@quokk.au 2 points 14 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe so. To be clear I agree that doing all of those things is necessary, and don't expect everything to change because I canceled my Prime account. But I also believe, at least for myself, that it would be hypocritical to believe those efforts are righteous while simultaneously paying money directly to the oligarchy when I have other options.

[–] snowdriftissue@lemmy.world 2 points 14 hours ago

Fair enough. I don't think being a hypocrite is such a bad thing :)

https://srslywrong.com/podcast/325-the-idea-of-hypocrisy/