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Having a sub class of folks who are not citizens is definitely a problem. We need immigration reform. Having illegal immigrants who are willing to work for less than minimum wage is definitely a problem.
Even Bernie has said as much.
With immigration reform we can set the path for these folks to get citizenship which will raise wages for everyone.
I have zero faith in congress’ ability to do this though.
ICE definitely needs to be abolished. Open borders is probably a bad starting point though… but I like that idea more than having ICE.
This is the crux of the problem. Nobody has faith in Congress' ability to do anything.
They are getting so old they can barely wipe their own asses.
The fact that immigration is even a thing here makes me chuckle. We literally killed the people who lived here, planned a flag and said that's ours now. It's such a laughably ridiculous concept. Every one of us here is a descendants of immigrants who came here looking for a better life.
I mean, native Americans/native indians still exist. So not everyone
I mean yes, but they were systemicatically murdered in a genocide, and forcibly removed from their land.
Anybody who survived that period was forced to integrate with American society or face systemic persecution and often death.
Hell, we went to war with a number of tribes bcz we wanted their land and resources. The point isn't that Native Americans don't exist today.
Its that their culture was systematically destroyed and their homelands burned to the ground or taken over.
Yes, I acknowledge all of that. Which is why I was correcting you when you said every one of us is descended from immigrants looking for a better life. It's wrong to act like they are completely gone, not because it makes our ancestors look bad, but because it erases the people and cultures who are still here with us and persevere.
i think, alas, the spirit remains true since indigenous people have been systematically barred from the levers of power. however, i still appreciate your comment because building something new that works for everyone will have to include, and frequently be led by, indigenous voices
I understand and agree with your sentiment, but supermajorities of voters in dem repub and independent parties want criminal immigrants deported. That’s why so many independents went with Trump this go round. They don’t like just rounding up everyone for the purpose of achieving some record of deportations just for shits and giggles though.
Establishment dems were downplaying crime and immigration issues while establishment repubs and Trump were exaggerating them. Immigrant criminals and gangs and cartels are a real problem and people on the streets see it, especially immigrants in those same communities.
With immigration reform and doing things like giving daca and similar immigrants who have been here since they were babies a path to citizenship makes sense. And so does having refugee and asylum options, especially in places where US foreign policy has directly caused the hardships that have and are causing folks to flee their own country. That’s basically all of central and Latin American and the carribean and also countries in South America, Palestine, Ukraine. US foreign policy is beyond fucked up.
Our monkey brains are still fixed on tribalism and racism which makes us infight though, allowing the establishment politicians to pit us against each other while the uniparty continues to serve the corporate and donor class… and Israel.
Please point me to all of these supposed immigrant gangs. I'd love to read about it. All of the research data that I've seen points to immigrants committing violent crimes at a far lower rate than actual citizens of the U.S.
If you don't have actual data to back up your claims, you're just spouting misinformation at best, or intentional disinformation at worst.
Cartels are a different problem entirely. Those are drug gangs from other countries. So, in don't even know why you're bringing that up in the context of immigration.
Absolutely, immigrants in general do commit far less crime than citizens based on what I’ve read and seen.
Republicans would have us believe gangs are in control of the cities and all kinds of craziness… this is not what I’m suggesting.
But there are examples of gangs and criminals doing things in relatively recent news cycles…
I was saying Dems tend to look the other way, Repubs exaggerate the problem… we all know we need immigration reform, and Trump was speaking to the issue when he campaigned. Dems downplayed it or suggested it didn’t exist at all.
I work every day with immigrants. I’m conversationally fluent in Spanish because of it. I support immigration and reasonable paths to citizenship. But under our current system we have an underclass of people being exploited by the owner class. That’s not acceptable to me.