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Ya know...you might expect a couple of loonies filing fake reports against somebody as high-profile as Trump.
And I could totally see Trump's DOJ tossing as many non-credible reports on top to make it sound like all of them are just crazyy.
But nobody could possibly piss off this many people into making this many fake reports.
Even if 1% of them are legit, that's far too many. And you know it's probably more like 80-90%.
This is way bigger than Clinton's blowjob (from Lewinsky).
Where the fuck is the outrage in Washington?
Oh half of them are mentioned in the documents. Well, that explains it then.
Is it pitchfork time? We gotta be getting close by now. Right?
It's been Exhausted/Diluted/Usurped by a neverending onslaught of daily ragebait and all the other atrocities currently happening in the nation and world.
Is this intentional? I can't prove it but I think to an extent it is. But it's not just about the Epstein files, it's the people who enable Trump and the people who own him keeping him in place because his a useful tool for malfeasance on many, many fronts.
Should we be more upset about a global cabal of pedos, Gaza, ICE shooting people, Greenland, or what's about to happen in Iran? What's the biggest threat? The economy? The climate? China? Russia? Fascism? Terrorism? Antivaxxer's fetish for contracting preventable diseases? Mass shootings? Robotaxis commiting road rage? AI disinfo and job loss? Housing costs? Groceries...?
All of this, whether by design or coincidence, is working together to force people to keep their heads down and worry about themselves as much as possible. That's why it's so important to organize, to give material and verbal support to protestors and advocates when you can, and to build a community where you live.
Are you kidding? 50% of the country hates Trump, some enough to make attempts on his life. But you think there's no way this many could possibly make this stuff up?
Not in 2016, under oath, they didn't. I will bet $10,003 this one is true.
Aren't most of these reports from little girls though? Little girls aren't usually very political. It's weird so many would be radicalized against the president
50% hates trump? I thought his ratings were the highest of any president? Ya'll have an excuse for EVERYTHING
Yeah but a lot of these complaints were recorded before Trump 45.
There's probably a lot of them in the files is my guess.
No one has been able to explain how Epstein got his money to get this whole thing started. He did also have a lot of ties to the Mossad and senior Isreali leaders. It's pretty likely his work was an Israeli influence operation. Fund someone to build a sex island and staff it with illegally young girls that can't be found in such numbers anywhere else. Provide means for the rich and powerful to discretely access the island. Fill the place with video and audio recording equipment. Create records of everything that happens there. Then, invite as many members of the American ruling class to rape children on the island as possible. You now have lifelong blackmail on every one of those people. For the cost of a few tens of millions, Israel bought itself control of the American political and business elite. Even if they only manage to snag 1 in 10 of these leaders in their web, it's enough. That guarantees that whenever a big decision is made regarding US-Israeli relations, there will be someone in the room that the Mossad has lifelong blackmail material on. There are few more powerful forms of blackmail imaginable than telling someone "we literally have video of you raping children."
It does go a long way to explaining both parties' total capitulation to Israel. Up until the 1990s or so, Israel was an ally, but we didn't see this fawning supplication we do now. Presidents were willing to actually stand up to the Israeli government and use American funding to rein them in. At the same time, Israel also wields the Mossad, probably the single most competent espionage, influence, and assassination outfit on the planet. Look at what they managed to do to all those Iranian nuclear scientists or the mass pager attack. The Mossad are terrifyingly competent, and they truly believe in their cause. Blackmailing the US political class on a massive scale is something entirely within their capability.
It's guns and guillotine time
It's time to raise the boards . . .
Yeah, no need to defend one predator while going after another. String em both up, and let Monica pull the lever.
Are you suggesting that Clinton getting a blowjob from Lewinsky and then lying about it is the same in kind and degree to what is alleged in the released pages of the Epstein files?
Clinton was also a close friend of Epstein. Protecting him is likely why the Democrats didn't use Trump's friendship with Epstein effectively.
You need to stop making that mistake. Defending and protecting Clinton, who is a predator (as the Lewinsky affair among many shows) means protecting Epstein, and thus Trump.
The original comment was about Clinton's blowjob only. I was very clear in my question, and constrained it to that only because at the time you had not explicitly extended it to all of Clinton's involvement with Epstein.
Now that you've decided to do so, I'll preface by saying I'm Canadian, and I don't give a shit about Clinton, so if indeed his involvement is as bad as Trump, then punish him the same. Obviously they should be punished - as the law is intended to do - according to the severity of their crimes. I will say this: The Trump involvement in the last drop has been nightmarish, if even 5% is true, and I can't help but consider that the Justice department is incentivized to release material that amplifies Clinton's involvement and diminishes Trump's, and if this is the best they can do then Trump is truly a monster.
Yeah, he, and everyone else connected with Epstein, are monsters and should hang.
These crimes are horrendous, but I'm guessing you haven't really thought about the implications of the death penalty very deeply, and in particular in relation to crimes of CSA. For one thing, it's a sure fire way to end up with a lot more dead kids.
Yeah, I have. My family includes criminal defense attorneys who are staunch opponents of the death penalty.
And I am in most cases - with the exception being cases like this, or war crimes, where the very powerful are inflicting massive harm with confidence they will get away with it. That is when it is useful, as something even the powerful must fear. China's execution of bankers follows this.
Ok so you're not talking about CSA in general;, in fact you're not talking about any crime in particular, but rather the power possessed by those who perpetrate them?
How would this work? Is torture ok? How do you determine who is powerful enough? How do you prevent uncertainty and/or other powerful interests hijacking the justice system?
You know what's easier and remains in line with fundamental values of liberal justice systems? Just no death penalty. Start by actually enforcing laws against the powerful, with penniless and impotent lifetimes spent in prison. Avoid creating martyrs and endless cycles of violence and retribution.
And in the case of CSA, again, avoid creating piles of dead kids. If all of these criminals thought they were facing the death penalty the crimes and corruption would just get worse, to absolutely no benefit to us other than satisfying emotional blood lust.