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Just thought I'd note this. Main beneficiary so far seems to be piefed.ca.

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[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 1 day ago (4 children)
[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

That was an interesting read.

Seems like piefed should fix a lot of that. For some of it, at least make it configurable and not hard coded. But that blocked user stuff seems like a real problem.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Most of it is configurable and off by default. But the haters don't mention that.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 9 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I’m reading that in other replies. Still you would put this in configs, for which you could have templates that come with certain defaults populated, rather than hard coding like this.

[–] rimu@piefed.social 4 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I'm doing this because I love doing it. Often that means the boring bits like documentation or config or general finesse get left out. I'm trying to paint with broad strokes in the hope that when others see what I'm trying to do they'll join in and fill in the details.

[–] jaybone@lemmy.zip 2 points 13 hours ago

Yeah no worries. I’m happy with any effort that brings more people to the fediverse. My comments were honest and constructive criticism. Wasn’t meant to offend. Keep up the good work.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 11 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Everyone knows this. This is also just piefed.social.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Linking so people see it.

Isn't that something possible in any piefed spot not just the instance of the dev?

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 9 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Yes. So? Piefed.ca is receiving the bump here. Other instances have turned it off.

You know Rimu made a thread in !piefed_meta@piefed.social so you can ask questions or express concerns.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because it's a piefed feature set.

Based on rimus responses here and elsewhere they do not seem interested in feedback.

Even in their comment linking to a thread saying they welcome it, they were attacking someone providing it

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Where do you see that in the thread?

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Here = comm

And https://lemmy.world/comment/21861362 which leads to

https://piefed.social/comment/9670365

Where both calls anyone but them looking at the code amateurs and can't understand people wouldn't provide feedback if thought bad things in code were purposely done as so many projects will do that

There’s no need to listen to rumors and amateur speculation when we’re right here and happy to help. Come on in, the water’s fine!

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

This comment was a month ago, and he was aware of people heavily slamming his project and showing no interest at all in actually sharing it to him.

He isn't specifically "calling out" anyone directly. All he says here is that the stuff people are complaining about here have been on piefed and not hidden since day zero.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Notice the quote from them specifically saying everyone but us are amateurs.

He isn't specifically "calling out" anyone directly. All he says here is that the stuff people are complaining about here have been on piefed and not hidden since day zero.

Again he's linking to the thread calling out others for looking at the code.

And again most are pointing out how terrible the code is and how odd it is for some of the features to exist.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

"Amateur speculation". I've directly replied to many people who have made false conclusions about parts of the code they looked at, mostly notably the claim that continues to persist that lemmy.ml is also defederated out of the box based on a complete misunderstanding of a specific code snippet.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Love that the respose ignores every point just deflects again to a completely different topic

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Saying some are doing amateur speculation is not the same thing as saying anyone who has issues are "amateurs".

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Except that is exactly how it reads.

ignore everyone else looking at the code because they're amateurs as we're the only professionals here

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That's simply not how I read it at all. He's referring to people taking excerpts from the code and running away with long conclusions and motives based in some cases on presuppositions and assuming bad intent.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

It reads as being upset anyone would dare read it. Especially with replying to the person pointing it out they wouldn't review anything they thought was intentional coded in a particular way.

Note this is completely separate from by stance after reading some of the code and stance of the level of it.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 2 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I simply do not share this interpretation of his comments at all.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

I know, but you also can't see anything but positives from anything they do

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

And I can say the reverse to you. You interpret every decision made in the worst possible light.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Because I'm a cynical pet and keep seeing odd decisions made along with language that 80% of the time points to bad things.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Having actually interacted with rimu more than you, I think it's reasonable I simply dismiss your position here.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Which again doesn't change how others would perceive the language used.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Are you purely upset about the use of "amateur" here?

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

No it's their stance anyone reading the code has to talk with rimu or there's no way the person can understand it.

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Its more one can ask and inquire here if they wish rather than snipe and spam it around the fediverse everywhere.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

Again it's behave as I want and you have to talk to me or it's bad.

Am I talking to rimu now? Or just pr team?

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

"Behave as I want"? What? I think it's reasonable for a developer, any developer to not view those who, from their perspective, seek to denigrate their work, possibly in bad faith, across multiple places.

You are talking to Skavau.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 26 minutes ago (1 children)

So you do/can see the hostility from the language used. So piefed pr

[–] Skavau@piefed.social 1 points 23 minutes ago

No, I'm seeing hostility used from others across the wider fediverse. I don't think anything he said there was really specifically hostile at all in any thread. A complete reach.

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 2 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 5 points 20 hours ago (1 children)

As i asked there, which is the 4chan image blocking as the checks there simply say images from 4chan cause reputation loss.

I know you are amazing at promoting the fediverse but feels odd to see you ignore all the issues people bring up about piefed

[–] Blaze@piefed.zip 5 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

Edit : asked Rimu, here's the answer:

I wrote a long message about how that checkbox only notifies about federated posts.

So the difference is for local posts it blocks the creation of the post entirely, but for federated posts it just notifies the admin.

https://chat.piefed.social/#narrow/channel/3-general/topic//near/10529

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Maybe that filter is the one missing, if that's the case, that will be changed soon, as it always has been for every time a similar issue was raised

  • the thorn character filter
  • 196 and other memes communities not being federated by default
  • the "this filter" being configurable

My personal stance is that Piefed has several features that Lemmy has been lacking for more than a year, and that prevent the Threadiverse from growing

  • multicommunities
  • onboarding process asking new joiners what they are into
  • crossposts comments consolidation
  • communities moderation features
  • posts and user flairs
  • keyword filters

None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.

What we see from time to time is people spreading literal misinformation about Piefed, saying that those filters can't be disabled by an admin (they can), and/or that a fork is needed to do so (it's not) .

That's why I created that post, because for whatever reason Piefed seems to now have haters, which seems counterproductive as it has the unique features listed above.

I personally would prefer people to say "Lemmy is fine, PieFed is fine too, both can operate with each other, my personal preference is X" rather insulting Piefed or Lemmy devs.

[–] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org -1 points 2 hours ago

Piefed just reminds me too much of sublinks where people simply hated the devs so instead of helping improve the software or even fork it just started fresh on something new.

None of the Piefed users ever said Piefed was perfect, that the code was elegant, or that there were no issues with filters such as the the three examples I listed above.

I'd argue poor code will cause issues as users increase, both for instance admins and user performance.

Overall the issues brought up keep coming back to piefed bringing in some of the worst parts of reddit to the fediverse, like the reputation system. It's designed how rimu wants people to interact in specific ways. And does not seem to care if it actually works with other non piefed instances.

[–] rglullis@communick.news 3 points 8 hours ago

All the "features missing on Lemmy" could/should be implemented on the client. The fact that developers don't understand that and go on to reimplement a whole part of the stack (instead of joining forces and helping the existing effort) is counterproductive.