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[–] PotatoesFall@discuss.tchncs.de 59 points 3 days ago (5 children)

the whole idea that discussing politics is lame is a neoliberal brainworm.

Don't discuss politics with your family, just enjoy the time! — okay weird but sure

Don't talk politics with your friends — what the hell why not

No politics at work — that's a deeply political place wtf are we doing

[–] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

When people say no politics, that means no arguing. This applies to office politics, family politics, and of course government politics.

[–] NannerBanner@literature.cafe 3 points 1 day ago

The no arguing thing is key. Everyone eventually finds a topic that they don't agree on, because politics, in the greek philosophy (aristotle based) sense of the word (I actually loved nicomachean ethics), is about the pursuit of the good life writ large. The chances of two people believing in the exact same life goals is almost zero, so there will be a fundamental disagreement at some point that, because we are talking about using governmental authority as a cudgel (in the modern sense of the word politics) to bring about a 'good life' for society, will cause a lot of friction.

In environments where we can't control who we interact with, and that are semi-public with an 'audience,' such as work and family dinners, it's just easier to say no politics and focus on the agreed areas of shared interests. Otherwise those little frictions can build into socially driven, highly charged arguments.

Keep political discussions to where everyone can easily walk away, where it's one-on-one, or where everybody comes wanting to talk politics, and things are fine.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The only place to discuss politics is the same place we're supposed to talk about gun violence.

A concrete, soundproof bunker that you need to climb a 60-foot ladder down to seal yourself inside, ensure nobody is around, and whisper your grievances into a small vinyl bag, then tie the bag up with a zip-tie and place it inside a mason jar and return it to the shelf inside the bunker.

This is how you protest as an American if you want to follow established societal norms and etiquette. Anything else and it's between 4 and 10 gunshots to the chest, face and back.

[–] Gladaed@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

Don't yell about politics in the work place. Just complaining about straw men is tiring.

[–] Comtief@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

no way im going to talk politics at work, i have work to do.

[–] Limerance@piefed.social -5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The cranky unhappy politics wonk endlessly droning on about the evils of the world are a drain on everyone else’s joy. 

[–] Grail@multiverse.soulism.net 5 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This may be because I'm autistic, but I think apoliticals are the most boring people in the world. Apoliticals always want to talk about the weather and their favourite reality TV show and what they did while drinking on the weekend. But My political friends talk about political stuff like science fiction, history, cool movies, fun gossip.

Politics is what humans are best at in all the animal kingdom. If a human wants to be apolitical, well they're just not living up to their potential. I'd get just as much engaging conversation from a dog, and it would be cuter.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

People like this are usually very timid and weak in emotional fortitude for talking about difficult topics, and have probably had too many arguments with people even less intelligent and it created trauma. To say nothing of the actual deliberate campaigns by many internal and external forces to poison the wells of dialogue so that everyone feels lost and afraid of politics.

I think along with the autistic spectrum comes an internal dialogue and information organization system that makes people care about more abstract concepts and ideas, which are inherently political if they involve more than one person, real or imaginary.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I don't mind politics wonks if they have moderation and aren't doomers.

Doomers or do-nothing liberals are the worst kind, I will take an outspoken conservative over liberals and doomers any day. At least an outspoken conservative chud I can talk to and understand and eventually break. Because I am smarter than most of them. So are you. We all are. We're just afraid of confrontation but you can shape conversations so that these people let their guard down and actually become receptive to new perspectives if you can change their feelings.