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I think only real fact from your end has been that most things have been 100% pulled from your ass.
Signal has been most downloaded message app for few months now, hitting the most downloaded communications app in most north european countries and having 220 million downloads world wide. Granted the change is slow and whatsup still the most used app, but numbers now are way different than year ago.
If the big tech is so far in our legastlation, why they keep getting their asses handed over when they try to touch workers rights.
And why they keep getting fined over the backdoors and security breaks all the time?
And also in my country we have all the important goverment cloud data in servers in country and less critical data are in europe. (Granted the devices are most likelly ciscos, but the network is heavily monitored and there are no way to siphon data from there without getting caught)
Maybe you should stop pretending that nothing can be done. I mean its easier to just give up and try to act like nothing can be done, but that is the way you end up with goverment putting people in concentration camps and having untrained thugs shooting civilians in a name of law.
Everything I have said is true, you are just fucking clueless. This is why big tech won. You didn't even fucking know and when someone tells you deny it like an idiot.
You think your nation won against big tech, boy you showed them. Hitting them in their pocket book. With fines amounting to less than 1% of their total revenue in one year. You are playing security theatre in your head.
Go give Meta more of your personal information so they can share it with your government like a good Eurodumbass.
Why you are suddenly so angry? Is it your default answer when somebody dont belive your bullshit?
Im fairly certain i have better understandment how the world works than some child who gets mad on the internet, cant provide any tangible evidence to back their talks and who does not understand how big deal 1% of worldwide revenue is for company of any size. You do understand revenue does not mean how much money the company has earned? A business's revenue is its gross income before subtracting any expenses.
Everything in these comments of yours just screams that, what ever rung you are in your social situation, by the time any nugget of information reaches you, it has already been digested and molded by hundreds of people in to a form that fits your worldview.
But im not delutional either. I see how big companies lobby againt user rights all the time and i think its especially dangerous that some of the support from american companies goes straight to extreme far-right parties. But i also see how Musk is getting his asshanded to him with tesla sales in EU. And im not sure if this is third or fourth time is say this. IF THE BIG TECH COMPANIES HAVE SUCH A STRONG HOLD ON EUROPEAN GOVERMENTS, WHY THEY ARE CONSTANTLY FIGHTING AND LOBBYING AGAINST THEM? If EU would be in their pocket they would not need to do that.
Also just for your "americunt" ass to know. I have done GDPR information removal request for my facebook account years ago, i dont use whatsapp, and i specifically bought a phone without google and meta bloatware, so maybe you should just go outside and watch how minorities get trambled or what ever it is thats is happening over there.
Go do a favor for yourself and find a new news outlet or two, that you usually dont read and broaden your horizon a little. Maybe you should think for a moment if have been just gobbling propaganda that has been manufactured for you and now parrot everything as a truth.
Why are you so ignorant? Is your default always to pretend you know something that apparently you know nothing about. The European Union kowtowing to big tech because it benefits them is the facts. You pretend they are regulating them and I am just pointing out the obvious that they really aren't.
I am fairly certain you don't know shit. Please spare me your garbage pretending 1% of their budget for one year is some big bad penalty and not just an extremely minor cost of doing business.
You provide no evidence to refute anything I have said because I am fucking right and you are just acting like a little bitch boot licker at this point.
You are so fucking delusional it isn't funny. You think you know but you have not even scratched the surface of what is going on. You denying that the big tech companies have a stranglehold on Europe is hilarious. Show me the proof that Europe has moved away from big tech or even put their foot down.
I mean at this point you are fucking goose stepping towards complete corporate rule (actually you are already there). Europe never had a chance apparently and you think GDPR is going to save you from the dystopia you haven't even realized you are living in. It wasn't a bad idea, but it was just the start of what was needed.
Instead of continuing this crusade we get fucking chat control. So pardon me if I am disappointed for you since you don't have enough sense to be disappointed yourself.
I am so glad you care about your digital footprint, now if you can convince everyone else to do the same perhaps there is some hope left.
Oh lordy you telling me about gobbling up propaganda. Please point out a news outlet besides maybe Techdirt that even approaches what I am saying. The truth is you are the one eating propaganda and puking it all over Lemmy.
Another long raving with zero substance or no serious arguments?
You not being able to tell difference between revenue, budget and profit really shows how "educated" you are and how "deep" your understanding of world of business is.
But as a fully honest and by no means maleficient advice. Reading news and opinions from different angles than your own is never a bad thing. I engourage you to read some articles from other countries. Most bigger news sites have some if their articles translated to english too.
I am glad you have conceded to all my points as you have been unable to refute them. These points are (since your reading comprehension is about zero).
Europe governments benefits from big tech surveillance so they are not keen on regulating them in any real way. There is a huge difference between what the people want and what the government wants. While Europe has made some minor strides in increasing the power of the state over corporations they have done almost nothing to increase the power of the people. This is, of course, by design.
The meager fines they have placed on big tech are next to nothing, have not even been enforced, will be litigated for the next decade, and most importantly not changing their behavior as they are still breaking the law. With gems like, "Research indicates that 90% of Data Subject Access Requests (DSAR) are not fully respected by companies".
The actual regulations they have passed have benefitted big business because they are the ones with the capital to be able to follow the law which costs a lot in compliance. Furthermore they have the lawyers and ability to fight the fines indefinitely. Too little too late doesn't even begin to cover the reality we are facing.
You not being able to actually have a conversation about this and instead being in complete denial is the reality here. When you are ready to have a real conversation about Europe getting bent over by big tech I am ready. I won't hold my breath though because you sure like your high horses
I actually hope you are right and Europe does smack down big tech, reduces corporate influence, and develops its own tech sovereignty. Unfortunately, I know they are actually addicted to spying on their citizens and big tech gives them exactly what they need. Even if they replace them (the only way forward) they will likely just build a similar system themselves.
Here are a few articles I read today. Have fun trying to read your local news. I am sure they will offer tons of insight about this issue.
https://edri.org/our-work/move-fast-and-break-big-techs-power/
https://carnegieendowment.org/research/2025/06/rethinking-eu-digital-policies-from-tech-sovereignty-to-tech-citizenship?lang=en