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I do enjoy discussions like these, but we are getting stuck.
Im talking about the quote you said earlier, and how, while it is a strong quote, its not universal and it cannot be just tossed as is to the other situation. The quote critiques how people enjoying certain benefits are slow to change their opinion and behavior when people they seem less worthy are given chance to get some of those benefits for themself.
And the situation we are talking is how much people are willing to take if there will be a trade war in future. These are two very different situations.
If my friend needs medicine to live and they cant get it because some nation on the other side of the sea wants to subjucate us, it is only going to get me hate that nation harder.
By the way this is called a yes set. Its when you are asking questions where only reasonable answer for the other side is to agree with you or pick a response you have already decited. Ideally this leaves you in the position where you can keep building on that and getting other person agreeing with you turns arguments into discussions, even if it is scripted. Few of these and im gonna buy a car from you.
You want a safe car for your family, right? Is it important to you, that your car is dependable? What matters to you more, the mileage or how it drives?
This sedan was just waiting for you to come in!
I am still confused by your thoughts. I truly do not mean to entrap you somehow, if that’s what you mean. I am only trying to understand your beliefs and then refine mine. A cycle of asking refining questions and getting candid answers is how I try to understand someone’s beliefs. Also, some of the questions were answers to your assertions. I was hoping the questions would reveal that I am not referring to a mental process that constrained to any time or place. Not constrained to family.
Yes, the situation was different with the civil rights movement. I was referring to a very specific trait in human behavior that I am trying to fully understand. I can understand if white moderates looked down on blacks and decided that now is not the right time and such, but they didn’t necessarily look down on them. The changes would inevitably cause personal pain to those white moderates. Within them is the full spectrum, including ultra-wealthy who would prefer stability of their economic realm. My thoughts circle around to how a group can be strong and united for a worthy cause, but totally fail to do what is needed, because of individual selfishness. I don’t mean selfish in a bad sense, but in that we will all naturally consider our situation and how our situation will be affected. Consciously, or not, we will account for our own needs, desires and fears. I strongly believe that this an abstract thought process that we apply everywhere.
I just looked up about yes sets. Haha, I was so so confused why you writing of car sales. No, I was trying to establish a foundation of agreement. I hoped you would agree with caring for yourself and others in your life. I also assumed that your brain would process the implications, whether you’d like it to or not. Sometimes those questions seem to cause some sort of cognitive dissonance (something else I try to understand) and the person refuses to answer in a candid way, or has an emotional outburst. I experience it all the time in the US now. MAGA mind will argue in bad faith until they pass out. If one won’t answer questions that ground the conversation, they are likely a troll.
We can end it here, that’s fine.