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I have trained 6 people to fill my shoes in my role. 1 gave up. 1 got fired. 1 was never really a programmer and that resulted in an argument with management about the role actually needed (they call it tier 2 support but you need to be a competent programmer to debug the issues). 2 of the others took other jobs for much more pay. The last guy is still here and he's good I guess...
But I'm tired man... Tired of explaining the same things over again. It's not the new guy's fault but that doesn't change the fact that I've grown jaded. I tend to realize I being a jerk, apologize and tone it down. Doesn't change the fact that my gut response is jerkish.
Okay, I understand. This leads me to believe that programming is not really for everyone and I should reconsider my choice so as not to regret anything in the future. I hope you enjoy the rest of your work.
I don't think it's just programming I think it's most jobs in general. It's just very evident cuz programming and IT and and overall is very in focus now. Most people that have been in a job for any length of time tend to have short tempers because " it's easy to get this job. Cuz they don't remember how hard it was for them in the beginning. They expect everybody to come in. Not only that but most of those people coming in are getting paid close to the same if not sometimes more than the person training them. So you tend to give up after a while.
As someone in a programming adjacent job (which still involves a lot of coding and debugging, looking at my current career in comparison with other jobs I've had I think it's not all jobs, but it's about jobs that require specificity.
Some pick up the fundamentals on their own and end up getting good at it. Some pick up the fundamentals, either through education or hobby, but never really get a good grasp on it. And some fail to pick up the fundamentals. Programming is a job that requires a certain level to at least be useful, and failing that can lead to a lot of frustration.
I don't know I disagree with the specific jobs that require specific skills. I mean hell I've seen fast food workers that have been doing it for years get annoyed at people that come in and can't do what they consider basic.
If you have a genuine interest in how things work in software and in being a great programmer, that passion will do more to carry you than finding another field with fewer arrogant assholes.
But if you're just trying to learn because it makes good money or because it's a job you decided on but don't particularly care about, it might be a struggle.
This applies to any kind of work. Having that fascination and interest in the work itself will make it much easier to learn and thrive (unhelpful assholes aside).
You shouldn't reconsider your choice because you ran into a butthole on a forum. Block and ignore the trolls. As a beginner, you're going to hit a lot of walls where you might need some help. It's unavoidable.
Block assholes and ignore down votes. Pay attention to those who are willing to help. I immediately block anyone that gives a sarcastic or unhelpful answer.