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Toyota Owner Didn’t Know His Car Was Talking To Insurers Until He Saw His Rates
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Time to make data sharing illegal. If it is technically needed, the industry needs to have a written contract with the user, which describes in detail which data is shared. It must be a separate contract from anything else, and one each for each industry partner.
"T&Cs update : please agree to 80 pages of impenetrable legal jargon before you can continue to use your vehicle"
That's why I say it must be a written, separate contract. And not signing it must be without consequences regarding other contractual obligations.
Notarized. The agreements need to be notarized.
And you have to be able to cancel it at any time.
Why
Because the seriousness of this contract should require proof that you agreed to it
A little click box is fine for something that doesn’t matter, but for lifetime real time surveillance, that’s important enough that you should have a serious contract with proof that you actually signed it
I feel like this was something that needed to be stopped decades ago but now it's just not possible to do this. You can't wait until it's this big then start thinking how to change it
The other option is to look at the possible outcomes and in this case the direction we are on is unacceptable.
Better to start now because it gets costlier by the minute to delay.
That which is unsustainable tends not to be sustained.
That's the Terms and Conditions that nobody reads.
I'm not talking about a "one click for everything". I'm talking about a separate, written contract that can be cancelled at any time, without cause for any other obligation.
The t&c are not a separate contract, though. Its a "take it or leave it" signing here gets you the car and the agreement to be spied upon.
I read them all now with Chatgpt. Just fed it in and summarize
Hahaha welcome to the eu
In the owner's manual, it says you consent to data collection by driving the car and if you don't consent, you should return the car to the nearest dealer.
I'll bet if you tried it the dealer would refuse to take it back.
I'd like to be a fly on the wall in that court case.
Fuck them and the horse they rode on. Stuff like that needs to be made illegal.