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The cynicism behind faulting americans who didn't even vote for Trump is concerning (kbin.melroy.org)

submitted 3 days ago by fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org to c/goodoffmychest@lemmy.world

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I'm getting quite strained from the sentiment I'm gathering from people who possess a level of cynicism to where, they believe all Americans deserve what's happening and been happening. I don't agree with that.

There are 75 million Americans, who tried, really tried to get out there and prevent what was to come. We just didn't expect to be outnumbered by two million more people. But I think it's unfair to say that those 75 million americans who tried to prevent the floodgates from opening, deserve this. Because they don't.

There are other countries out in the world right now, who have just as bad leadership if not worse. Should we just assume the people there deserve it? No. Because there are probably people who are likely against their corrupt leaders. America is no different in that field.

We will try again come mid-terms, provided there are mid-terms. Hopefully the 77 million americans who did in fact vote for trump, have gotten enough of a wake-up call, that maybe their poor judgment and poorer decision making wasn't as good as they thought. Because it is they that have damned us to this mess and we know it, we've seen it.

But don't get this idea in your head that every American endorse the idea that we like what we have.

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[–] teslekova@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 days ago (4 children)

If you think voting will beat these fascists, you need to think harder about how you got here. You do not have an effective opposition, the Democrats are bought and paid for by corporations.

The midterm vote will not be free and fair. And if you wait until that is clear before fighting back, it will be much harder to do so.

I know you can't do much against the power of the state alone. But you have to resist, or flee. Fleeing is fine, btw, there's going to be a lot of refugees.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 9 points 3 days ago (1 children)

People here cannot afford to flee, unfortunately. That is very much by design. On top of that, which countries are taking refugees so far?

[–] fennesz12@feddit.dk 4 points 2 days ago

Here is where you american people have forgotten something extremely powerful and potent, that democrats have always had, but the opposition has not:

Standing together. Solidarity. Unity. Strength through numbers. Unions.

America is fundementally a very individualistic society, but people with our values know that true power comes from standing together. Build friendships which can evolve into alliances. Organize, even without established party involvement.

We are many who will help, even outside your borders. We may be across the atlantic, but we sure as hell will argue your case no matter what.

All the years I've spent on social media, I've argued right along with you against MAGA. I've helped as well as I can. Many Europeans have, and will continue to support you.

Maybe we just need to be more organized. To create real underground alliances. Help you in any way we can to make actual changes. Shit, I'll gladly write to my representative right now and tell him how I believe our foreign policy should be.

[–] fyrilsol@kbin.melroy.org 3 points 3 days ago

I feel the only true way to save America anymore is a civil war. Corruption is too deep-rooted where voting and passing laws have all but become just theater. Rights have been taken away. Supreme Court rulings like Roe v Wade that we thought was to remain, have been overturned with more potential crucial rulings under threat in the same vein.

America didn't become America because we fled. We became America because we fought Britain so long ago, to establish who we are as a country. But we're not that anymore and we haven't been for a long time. All of these alt-right people proclaiming they represent that spirit, only do so in sheer mockery.

Like I've said in another comment I've made, there is no scenario I can think of where we can solve this without blood. It is only a matter of when and the problem is what will it exactly take to finally break that camel's back before we take up the true spirit again if it means reforming this country.

[–] notsosure@sh.itjust.works 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I everybody flees, things will get a lot worse quickly.

[–] sexy_peach@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago

But not everybody is going to flee. So it's a moot point

[–] dragonfucker@lemmy.nz 2 points 3 days ago

You do not have an effective opposition, the Democrats are bought and paid for by corporations.

Yeah, obviously. Everyone knows the billionaires give them bad consultants on purpose to make them gaff and lose votes. That's how the Democrats stop progress to the left.

And everyone knows the counter strat is to vote for them anyway.