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Quite relevant for this year.

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[–] energisch_@troet.cafe 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (2 children)

@absGeekNZ this is about democracy with uninformed voters and shouldn't count today. Charisma vs. expert ability is not true. Look at Germany. We have the most uncharismatic Bundeskanzler you can imagine and he still is no expert in anything - in fact, he's absolutely unfit for his job.

[–] absGeekNZ@lemmy.nz 5 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I would counter that with, look at our leader. He is the all promise with no delivery kind of guy.

Mildly charismatic, bit it didn't take long for the cracks to start showing.

[–] energisch_@troet.cafe 4 points 6 days ago (1 children)

@absGeekNZ so what, our 2 examples show, it isn't democracy that's a problem. It is influencing voters through media and propaganda and the missing education in voters, that's the problem.

[–] damnthefilibuster@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago

Which would be the definition of “uninformed” voters. Voters who get influenced by propaganda and media narratives instead of being able to form their own opinions and see through the BS.

Don’t get me wrong - that’s very difficult to achieve. But it is a matter of being uninformed and lacking education.

[–] throws_lemy@lemmy.nz 1 points 5 days ago

our leaders are even worse. since the early 2000s, we have never had a competent leader. All we have had are "charismatic" leaders for their ignorant supporters. And the current leader is the worst of them all, a former special forces general who also kidnapped activists. He's similar to his father-in-law, a great dictator and corruptor in our history.

and he didn't even care about the deaths of more than 1,000 people due to flooding. The response was slow, he avoided criticism, and he did not even accept foreign aid.