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[–] some_designer_dude@lemmy.world 27 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Have you used a Mac in the last 10 years, beyond just flicking the mouse around at a FutureShop?

[–] tehBishop@sh.itjust.works 22 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I love the duality of saying "in the last 10 years" and "FutureShop" in the same sentence.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 4 points 2 days ago

I miss FutureShop. Fuck Best Buy for killing them

I forgot how long ago that died… BestBuy?

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Yes, last contract IT job (Macbook Pro, approx 10 months ago). I wanted to smash it in half over my knee and grab a random Thinkpad with my ventoy usb in hand.

[–] ufarooq@programming.dev 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Why? What was so bad about it?

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 14 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

MacOS repeatedly got in my way when trying to run specialist software needed for my work at [organization], because I had the audacity to use an executable not in line with Apple's walled garden. Additionally, transferring files was a pain in the nuts - so many "mac moments" of files resulting in 0 bytes after drive ejection and repeated permission error messages despite having the appropriate credentials active.

Throw in some minor annoyances with frankly unintuitive UX for general settings and layout configuration, and I was sick of the damn thing by day 3.

Made me miss my old job where I got to smash a vacated lab's worth of Macs with a sledgehammer. And where I was allowed to bring my own laptop.

[–] horse@feddit.org 8 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can disable Gatekeeper entirely using the terminal. They just don't expose the option in the UI anymore (which I think is fine).

[–] 01189998819991197253@infosec.pub 9 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I don't think it's fine. Expose the option, then warn me of the consequences, and allow me to decide. Warn me several times if you want, but allow me to disable it.

[–] horse@feddit.org 2 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It's quite rare to run into a Gatekeeper warning. Most users probably won't ever see one. And if they do, they can still bypass it for an individual app using the UI. It's just a bit convoluted (by design).

I administer a bunch of Macs for a university and I actually block the ability to disable or bypass Gatekeeper and nobody has ever complained about it.

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 5 points 2 days ago

Aw, I'd complain. A lot of open source tools don't pay for a cert so they get the GK warning

They do exactly that. You just use a keyboard instead of a mouse to accomplish the task.

[–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 7 points 3 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

For me it's mostly the 3-4 key keyboard shortcuts that need about 1.5 hands to press comfortably. Yes, printscreen, I'm looking at you.

Also, why the fuck is F4 used to open the app drawer thingy? (no idea what it's called) It's so far away from where my hands normally rest!

[–] NotSteve_@piefed.ca 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can disable the FN shortcuts so that they're just regular F# keys. The print screen thing is fair though admittedly in so used to them that I've set them as shortcuts on my main Plasma desktop lol

[–] Threeme2189@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

I always disable the fn shortcuts. It drives me crazy that they're enabled by default most of the time.

[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 4 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I'm using a Mac for software development at my current job. I prefer it over windows but I still hate it. Can't even alt tab through windows on that piece of garbage without extra software.

[–] ufarooq@programming.dev 10 points 3 days ago (1 children)

You can cmd+tab between applications, and cmd+~ between windows of a given application.

[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 5 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I just want a list of all my windows, like pretty much every other window manager does. This just makes finding the correct window take more keypresses.

[–] ufarooq@programming.dev 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

There's numerous ways to accomplish this. If you want the windows of your current app, "App Expose" (Ctrl+Down, and then Left/Right/Up/Down to select) is what you want. If it's all the windows, "Mission Control" (Ctrl+Up, granted you do have to click the window with the mouse) is what you want.

[–] Ghoelian@piefed.social 3 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I don't want to click anything. I want keyboard shortcuts. Windows of the current app is also not what I want.

[–] ufarooq@programming.dev 1 points 3 days ago

Alright, just tried it out here's how it works. cmd+tab to go to the application you want, if you're good there, let go and you're in the app. If you want a specific window of that app, press the down button to see all of the windows of that app and then use left/right arrow to select the window you want, and enter to select and focus, or esc if you saw what you needed to see and want to get back to what you were doing.

I'm not an Apple fan boy (other than I have not been happy with any PC hardware). I would love Linux on my M4, for now it will suffice on my server, my desktop, and my kids' computers. I'm just tired of folks authoritatively crapping on things they may not have experienced or played around with. Same goes when folks crap on KDE or Gnome.

This is what I mean. You can absolutely cycle windows with your keyboard. “Out of the box.”