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It's the first idea I had when it came to making sure login on my server is secure. Instead of having a small password that relies on my fallinble memory and may be also guessed in a not-completely-rodiculous amount of time.

Meanwhile a fairly small file, something like a 512 byte "user.key", to be uploaded along with your username, or even just having your username built-in, seems much safer.

I wanted to do some math but I could only find limited calculators for doing calculations with such big numbers so have the amount of possible combinations the file may have:

256^5121,044,388,881,413,152,506,691,752,710,716,624,382,579,964,249,047,383,780,384,233,483,283,953,907,971,557,456,848,826,811,934,997,558,340,890,106,714,439,262,837,987,573,438,185,793,607,263,236,087,851,365,277,945,956,976,543,709,998,340,361,590,134,383,718,314,428,070,011,855,946,226,376,318,839,397,712,745,672,334,684,344,586,617,496,807,908,705,803,704,071,284,048,740,118,609,114,467,977,783,598,029,006,686,938,976,881,787,785,946,905,630,190,260,940,599,579,453,432,823,469,303,026,696,443,059,025,015,972,399,867,714,215,541,693,835,559,885,291,486,318,237,914,434,496,734,087,811,872,639,496,475,100,189,041,349,008,417,061,675,093,668,333,850,551,032,972,088,269,550,769,983,616,369,411,933,015,213,796,825,837,188,091,833,656,751,221,318,492,846,368,125,550,225,998,300,412,344,784,862,595,674,492,194,617,023,806,505,913,245,610,825,731,835,380,087,608,622,102,834,270,197,698,202,313,169,017,678,006,675,195,485,079,921,636,419,370,285,375,124,784,014,907,159,135,459,982,790,513,399,611,551,794,271,106,831,134,090,584,272,884,279,791,554,849,782,954,323,534,517,065,223,269,061,394,905,987,693,002,122,963,395,687,782,878,948,440,616,007,412,945,674,919,823,050,571,642,377,154,816,321,380,631,045,902,916,136,926,708,342,856,440,730,447,899,971,901,781,465,763,473,223,850,267,253,059,899,795,996,090,799,469,201,774,624,817,718,449,867,455,659,250,178,329,070,473,119,433,165,550,807,568,221,846,571,746,373,296,884,912,819,520,317,457,002,440,926,616,910,874,148,385,078,411,929,804,522,981,857,338,977,648,103,126,085,903,001,302,413,467,189,726,673,216,491,511,131,602,920,781,738,033,436,090,243,804,708,340,403,154,190,336

What am I missing? I assume I'm missing something, because the idea of something like this going over a lot of smart programmers and developers' heads does not sound right

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[–] eksb@programming.dev 53 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

I think you are looking for SSH certificates.

[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 16 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (2 children)

I think OP is talking about auth in services that you selfhost.

For example elster.de forces you to sign in with one of the many passwordless methods, which includes: entering a username and uploading a cert file.

But most selfhosted services only have username/password logins (if any).

[–] jeena@piefed.jeena.net 15 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)
[–] HelloRoot@lemy.lol 12 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago) (1 children)

It does sound like one, but it isn't. Ignoring the differences in UX:

Passkey

  • Per-service key pair, unique per domain, Identity bound only to that specific account on that site
  • Challengeresponse via WebAuthn
  • Trust anchored only in the target service (no external CA)
  • Private key sealed in OS / secure hardware keystore

Certificate login

  • Single global identity usable across many services
  • TLS client authentication with certificates
  • Trust established via certificate authorities and chain validation
  • Private key stored in exportable file or smartcard
[–] GreenCrunch@piefed.blahaj.zone 1 points 4 hours ago

Thanks for the explanation!

[–] Flipper@feddit.org 4 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

If a service doesnt offer Oidc, just dont self host it. The SSO service can then be properly secured and even if its only a password, at least its not reused.

[–] melmi@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 14 hours ago

Just put everything that doesn't have OIDC behind forward auth. OIDC is overrated for selfhosting.