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I'm wondering if its a legitmate line of argumentation to draw the line somewhere.

If someone uses an argument and then someone else uses that same argument further down the line, can you reject the first arguments logic but accept the 2nd argument logic?

For example someone is arguing that AI isnt real music because it samples and rips off other artists music and another person pointed out that argument was the same argument logically as the one used against DJs in the 90s.

I agree with the first argument but disagree with the second because even though they use the same logic I have to draw a line in my definition of music. Does this track logically or am I failing somewhere in my thoughts?

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[โ€“] shaggyb@lemmy.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If you have nothing to back up your opinion beyond choosing arbitrary criteria to define it, then no.

Your opinion about music could be further defined by finding a distinction between the two. An obvious distinction is the actual work done by people in creating it. It could be argued that DJs create a transformative work through their own human effort and creativity. A generative AI is not capable of creativity and is not a human.

Furthermore, "not real music" is gatekeeping, thus not a logical distinction. Gatekeeping is a social control tactic which appeals to tribalism instincts with the intent to cause people to react from their fear of exclusion rather from rational thought. By claiming that AI music is not real music, you are indirectly targeting the agents who favor it rather than targeting the product itself. A better-formed opinion and thus a better argument would stay away from social disqualifiers and focus more on the specifics of what you disapprove of and why.

[โ€“] village604@adultswim.fan 0 points 1 day ago

There is the argument that the person prompting the AI is the artist, using a tool to get their inspiration out of their head and into the physical world.

AI doesn't generate anything without human input, and you often have to refine the prompt to get it to produce what you want. It's just a tool, and we've seen similar demonizations of tools using new technology before.

Some people still don't think digital artists are actually artists because they use digital tools instead of physical ones.