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[–] manxu@piefed.social 72 points 4 days ago (4 children)

Well, duh, he has to swear on a book that means something to him, preferably a (to him) holy book. How weird would it be if he swore on a Christian bible. not being Christian himself?

The book is not there for our cultural values. It's there to ensure the person swears an oath on something meaningful to them. We just forgot about that because we are used to all sorts of public figures swearing oaths that mean nothing to them.

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

It truly is amazingly gratifying to see such genuine people as Mamdani & "The Squad" successfully stepping up to make a difference, and enough people actually voting for them to win. It's honestly the only hope I have left in this shithole.

[–] manxu@piefed.social 4 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Fully with you there. A lot of people on the left are rapping on Schumer and Jeffries for being too moderate, and rightfully so. But I think there is a part of their extreme caution (or fecklessness) that comes from having seen more leftist candidates go down in flames in the past.

Having people like Mamdani, AOC, and others win elections decisively makes a huge difference. They are not perfect, but they move the needle in the right (left) direction.

It's like the progression from Bush to Trump in reverse.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

my god, you'll make up any number of excuses to avoid the fact that democrat politicians are not on your side. they are on the side of the ruling class. wake up.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Are we feeling bad about not voting effectively against trump and lashing out defensively again?

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

i don't know what you're doing, but I didn't vote for any genocidal or fascist candidates in any election, and I never will

democrats make fascism inevitable

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Aha! I was bang on.

Enjoy the speed run to fascism you helped cause.

[–] bearboiblake@pawb.social 1 points 3 days ago (1 children)

i'm not american, but ok, glad you care more about winning than about people fucking dying.

[–] CannonFodder@lemmy.world 0 points 3 days ago

Yes, I care about the people dying because of trump.
In a perfect world, the U.S. would ditch the Democratic Party too, and move way to the left. But that ain't gonna happen in our lifetimes. The Dems winning is quite possible if people aren't fucking idiots again. And that would be better than what we have now by a long way.
Don't let perfection distract you from better.

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Hate to burst your bubble, but some 'progressive' posters are playing the Both Sides Are The Same Card because Mamdani and AOC haven't called for the US to nuke Israel

[–] SanctimoniousApe@lemmings.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

That's nice. Every group has their extremists that lack a grounded perspective on achieving their goals & thus want to go too far, too fast (or who go out on their own and actually do so, which only serves to drag down the entire group in the end).

While I agree we need to at the very least force a regime change in Israel, the reality is there's little point in calling for "nuking" them now when there's simply no way it's going to happen. It would only serve to put off more people from Progressives than keeping their current stance of opposition to Israel's actions clear, yet not actually calling them "enemies" worthy of nuking will. When Progressives actually have a prayer of accomplishing something and/or see that even the more "center" constituents have finally had enough of Israel - that's the time to stick their neck out & risk turning off some of their "moderate" supporters on the edge.

At least that's my best guess as to their thinking, as I'm not even vaguely the type to be good at playing politics.

[–] derpgon@programming.dev 9 points 4 days ago

So, you are saying, technically, I could swear on the script to the Office?

[–] Taldan@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

If he swore in on a bible, or any other book, they would say he's avoiding a quran on purpose because he doesn't actually want to swear an oath on it

No matter what he did, they were prepared to complain

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Does he though? When we were sworn in at MEPS, we didn't swear "on" anything. We held our hands up as a group and swore "to" protect The Constitution. Clearly that oath didn't mean as much to many veterans as it did to my friends and me.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 4 days ago

Same for GS employees, just a mass in processing formality