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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 31 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Sometimes I think about the opposite where a patient is given placebo and then is cured. Imagine living the rest of your life knowing for certain that your body could cure whatever ailment it's going through but it's like naaah

Would legit drive people to deep spiritualism if not religion.

[–] MyCatIsDumb@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Well, not if they understand how double-blind studies work and can distinguish causality from correlation. People constantly get sick and get better without medication. The aim of such studies is to find out whether the medication performs better than no medication. In other words, the aim is to rule out the coincidence that illnesses often get better without treatment.

Of course, this does not mean that your body can cure “whatever ailment.” Self-healing, chance and coincidence do exist. There is no reason to become religious over it.

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Yeah, I'm very well aware how double blind works and my point is exactly related to your 2nd paragraph. Be it coincidence or actual real placebo caused healing (which happens) it would be a major perspective trauma and it definitely happens!

Personally I do think that mental states absolutely impact biology through many invisible forces like hormone production and behavior. So getting a placebo and believing that it works can stimulate specific hormone production or healthy behaviors like going for a jog which ends up legit healing the person. It's easy to see how this could lead someone to a more spiritual or religious point of view because in this experience something like "faith" is legitimately healing them tho not in the way they think.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Mental states are biology. That there can be broader impact on the rest of our body is hardly surprising.

[–] sukhmel@programming.dev 5 points 3 days ago

Yeah, reminds me a bit of bullshit titles like these:

YouTube videos with titles like ‘your brain knows what you'll do before you do’

No shit, your brain is also you

[–] Digit@lemmy.wtf 1 points 3 days ago (2 children)

That's kinda like saying the movie on the cinema screen is the projector at the back.

[–] CXORA@aussie.zone 1 points 3 days ago

More like saying a program running on a computer is digital, like the hardware.