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[–] rainbowbunny@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 days ago (2 children)

The vegan society in the 40s, originally the vegetarian society, made the term to specifically get around the issue of people conflating being vegetarian for other things. Much easier to say vegan than ovolacto-vegetarian.

Please just use the term plant based if you don't value ethics.

[–] Magnum@infosec.pub 7 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You mean not fucking up the planet is not caring about ethics? You can call whatever you are doing plant based. Vegan is the rejection of animal products, if you do that because you are a lunatic or whatever is your thing I guess.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Think for three seconds. Just because one thing has to do with one system of ethics, and a second thing has to do with a second system of ethics, does not mean both things have to do with the same system of ethics as each other!! ETHICAL SYSTEMS ARE NOT INTERCHANGEABLE.

What is making you this confidently ignorant?

Why don't you go read the basic article on Wikipedia and then come back with what you learned and tell us why we are wrong. Because right now you're just making shit up for god knows what reason.

[–] Magnum@infosec.pub 6 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Ok here is what I learned from the basic Wikipedia Article about veganism

Veganism is the practice of abstaining from the use of animal products and the consumption of animal source foods, and an associated philosophy that rejects the commodity status of animals. [...] People who follow a vegan diet for the benefits to the environment, their health or for religion are regularly also described as vegans.

[–] craftrabbit@lemmy.zip 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Well, times change and so does what words mean. Vegetarianism and veganism used to be somewhat radical philosophies, but nowadays, at least to me, they are normalised eating habits. I know all kinds of people who are vegetarian or vegan, with reasons ranging from health concerns to just not liking the taste of meat.

And in any case, I think gatekeeping veganism this way does no good at all.

[–] jerkface@lemmy.ca 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

That's like saying, "I know people who don't think women should be able to own property and vote, but they really love and support women, so that makes them feminist." No, it doesn't. Feminism and veganism are both moral philosophies. That means something. If you do not hold the respective philosophy, then you are not a vegan or feminist respectively.

Veganism is more than just not eating animals. You don't know what you are talking about, and you are arguing with people who do. Your arrogance is obscene.

[–] Magnum@infosec.pub 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 2 days ago

i think they prefer "jerkface"